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    Dr. Harold Perelson Murder/Suicide

    I did a search and didn't find this story listed, and I'm honestly surprised that some of our L.A. hags haven't already been on this story, so the usual disclaimers about merging, etc. apply. There's GOT to be something more to this story... I just wonder what it IS.



    Inside a mansion, it's as if time stopped in 1959 when a doctor killed his wife and then himself. Gifts still sit, unopened. Why?

    By Bob Pool
    February 6, 2009

    It's a murder mystery that has puzzled a Los Feliz neighborhood since 1959.

    The criminal-case part was solved quickly enough. Homicide investigators found that Dr. Harold Perelson bludgeoned his wife to death with a ball-peen hammer, savagely beat their 18-year-old daughter and then fatally poisoned himself by gulping a glass of acid.




    Authorities removed two other children from the sprawling hillside estate that overlooks downtown Los Angeles, locked the front door to the 5,050-square-foot mansion, and left.

    Fifty years later, the Glendower Place home remains empty.

    The estate's terraced grounds are pockmarked by gopher holes and overgrown with grass that sprouted after recent rains -- growth that neighbors know will turn brown when summer returns. A pond is partly filled with rainwater. Weeds poke through cracks in a curving asphalt driveway.

    On the outside, the mansion itself appears to be slowly decaying.

    Through grimy, cracked windows, one can see dust-covered furniture, including a 1950s-style television set, seemingly frozen in time. What appear to be gaily wrapped Christmas gifts sit on a table.

    And in the hills near the Greek Theatre, the questions linger:

    Why has the current owner kept the home as it was on Dec. 6, 1959? Will another family ever again bring life to the estate once described in a sales ad as "beautiful" and "delightful"?



    Built in 1925, the three-story Spanish revival-style home has a basement that boasts a maid's quarters. The first floor features an entrance hall flanked by a glassed-in conservatory and large living room. Toward the back is a den, a dining room and the kitchen.

    Four master-bedroom-size sleeping chambers are on the second floor. A bar-equipped ballroom measuring 20 feet by 36 feet is on the third level.

    Real estate experts have suggested that the mansion, with its spectacular view of the Los Angeles Basin and the Palos Verdes Peninsula, could fetch as much as $2.9 million if sold.

    "No one has lived there since the murders," said Dr. Cheri Lewis, who grew up across the street from the mansion and still lives in the neighborhood.

    Lewis vividly remembers the predawn morning when Perelson, 50, killed his 42-year-old wife, Lillian, and severely beat his teenage daughter.

    When two younger children were awakened by the victims' screams, Perelson told them they were simply having a bad dream, his youngest daughter told police."Go back to bed. This is a nightmare," he told 11-year-old Debbie. She and her 13-year-old brother, Joel, escaped injury.

    Eighteen-year-old Judye Perelson ran from the mansion and staggered to a neighbor's house. She was treated at Central Receiving Hospital and then taken to General Hospital with a possible skull fracture, The Times would report the next day.

    "Judye came to our door. I remember having my hand in her blood," recalls Lewis, now a Beverly Hills dentist.

    "I used to baby-sit the children there. I was supposed to spend the next night there, in fact."

    Police found Perelson lying dead on the floor next to his wife's blood-soaked bed. He was still clutching the hammer. On a nightstand next to his bed, investigators found an open copy of Dante's "Divine Comedy," which was opened to Canto 1.

    "Midway upon the journey of our life I found myself within a forest dark, for the straightforward pathway had been lost . . . ," read the passage.

    Detectives speculated that Perelson, a physician affiliated with an Inglewood medical clinic, was distressed by financial difficulties.

    In Judye Perelson's sports car, police found a note written to an aunt that told of the family being "on the merry-go-round again, same problems, same worries, only tenfold. My parents, so to speak, are in a bind financially." The teenager spoke of getting a job to help the family out.

    After the rampage, relatives took the younger Perelson children to the East Coast, Lewis said. The current whereabouts of the three are unknown.

    The story of the murder-suicide and the locked-up mansion has been told and retold ever since, each time a newcomer moves into the neighborhood or when visitors come upon it.

    House painter Steve Kalupski was puzzled one summer day eight years ago when he glanced over at the mansion from a neighboring dwelling where he was working. Through a grimy window, he said he could see gifts piled next to what in the dimness appeared to be a Christmas tree.

    "I asked the owner of the home where we were working why it was there, and she told me the story," said Kalupski, a Hollywood resident who now is an ad agency producer.

    His friends didn't believe him when he told them what he'd seen. So he began a ritual of driving them to the Los Feliz hillside to show them the abandoned mansion. He took Hollywood Internet entrepreneur Babette Papaj there two months ago. "It was dark and scary. I was afraid to get out of the car," she said.

    Neighboring Glendower Place resident Sheree Waterson said a friend of hers tried one night to check out the mansion in what she describes as "a Nancy Drew moment."

    The woman pushed open a rear door and walked in, but she didn't get far before a burglar alarm went off. She turned around and left, joking later about "ghosts" when she returned to Waterson's home. Soon, her hand was throbbing painfully.

    "She'd been bitten by a black widow. There was a red vein going up her arm. She had to go to the doctor," said Waterson, a clothing company executive.

    "Two nights later the alarm kept going off at my house on my back door. But there was no one there. It was like the ghost was following us."

    A year after the murders, in 1960, the mansion was sold in a probate action to a Lincoln Heights couple, Emily and Julian Enriquez. Neighbors remember that the pair visited the house and brought property there to store but didn't move in.

    In time, the place gradually fell into disrepair. Antique light fixtures dating from the 1920s disappeared from the outside.

    Over the years, neighbors say they have helped maintain the property by painting a street-side garage and tidying up the frontyard. They placed a chain across a driveway that leads to the rear of the mansion, giving each nearby resident a key to its lock.

    Several years ago the city required current owner Rudy Enriquez to replace stucco that had peeled from the sides of the house and front walkway walls and to repaint the place, neighbors say.

    "We had major problems.," explained Jude Margolis, a former neighborhood resident who now lives in Hancock Park.

    "Hookers were coming in. Everybody was bringing guests up there. One night I was sitting outside and I noticed that people were over there having a picnic in the backyard," said Margolis, an artist. (The burglar alarm was installed after that.)

    Enriquez inherited the mansion when his mother died in 1994. Since then, he has been approached many times by potential buyers but has steadfastly refused to sell. He tells everyone he hasn't decided what he wants to do with the property.

    "I asked him why not lease it, at least. You can't have a house sit empty for 50 years and not expect it to fall apart. It's a tear-down now. It's a shame," Margolis said.

    Enriquez never invited her into the mansion when he visited it. Another neighbor, Steven Hurley, has never been inside, either.

    "There are all kinds of stories about the house. Rudy's a very nice man. He's just not interested in doing anything with that house. He's never going to sell it," said Hurley, a lighting company sales manager.

    Enriquez, a 77-year-old retired music store manager who lives in the Mount Washington area, said he remains uncertain about his plans. "I don't know that I want to live there or even stay here," he said. He might relocate to Hawaii or Arizona, he added.

    But it has nothing to do with the mansion's violent past.

    "I've never looked at it as being haunted," he said. "For a time I had two cats inside there and I had to go often to feed them. I still go there often -- I was there last night, in fact. I think now I'll be going more often.

    "The only spooky thing there is me. Tell people to say their prayers every morning and evening and they'll be OK."
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    Wow, what a great story. I'd love to peek in the windows.

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    What was the address? I want to take a midnight run..it would be worth getting busted for. A peek at that house and maybe a little trip inside?? I am game anmyone else??

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    Neat-o! It would be great if someone was brave enough to go inside and take pictures.

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    Wow - I never heard of this one.

    I found a couple pics - bowls capturing water from the ceiling in a front room:



    An old tv and board game in back room



    Here's another story (where I got the pics). It seems Joel, the son, lives in New York but the reporter couldn't get ahold of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVSTORM View Post
    What was the address? I want to take a midnight run..it would be worth getting busted for. A peek at that house and maybe a little trip inside?? I am game anmyone else??
    Ooh, take lots of pictures! And watch out for spiders. (Because we all know spiders are evil, and straight from hell.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVSTORM View Post
    What was the address? I want to take a midnight run..it would be worth getting busted for. A peek at that house and maybe a little trip inside?? I am game anmyone else??
    Uh, be careful... the house is alarmed. I hadn't seen the additional pictures when I first posted the story, but they seem to indicate that not everything in the house was left in its exact place... some things have definitely been moved around.

    It reminds me a little of the mansion in Rebel Without a Cause, but I THINK that house was demolished after the movie was shot. And also the way James Dean and Sal Mineo interact with each other is nothing less than homoerotic, but I digress...

    From what little I've read, it sounds like the typical case of a father/husband living way beyond his means and decides the best way out is to kill his family and himself.
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    Thankfully he didn't hurt the 2 younger kids but I can't help but wonder why he hurt the older daughter. Maybe she was defending her Mom? With the news stories of late it seems the husband/fathers take out the whole family.

    I wish there were an interview w/one of the kids.

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    Awhy would someone buy that place to let it rot? To have the moneyand to buy it to let it rot doesnt make sense. If I could I would buy and rebuild it..I wanna go see it lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVSTORM View Post
    What was the address? I want to take a midnight run..it would be worth getting busted for. A peek at that house and maybe a little trip inside?? I am game anmyone else??
    I will wait with the bail money Nov!
    Wanna see my grandkids?

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    Oh I'd love to see that. My friend and I used to go to lunch in that area an we'd drive around the hills sometimes looking at houses. I wonder if we passed by it, not knowing its history.

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    Whatever happened to "partying with a bunch of naked teenage girls in the mansion" before snuffing your life out?

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    I really, really get the impression that the people that bought the property are somehow very intimately acquainted with the family that wa murdered. At first I thought it was one of the children that left it like this. But who else except someone very close would buy such a prime piece of real estate and leave it as is for so much time ??? Makes no sense


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazbabee View Post
    I really, really get the impression that the people that bought the property are somehow very intimately acquainted with the family that wa murdered. At first I thought it was one of the children that left it like this. But who else except someone very close would buy such a prime piece of real estate and leave it as is for so much time ??? Makes no sense

    I wonder if there might be more to the case than the police were able to discover, but my theory is a little hard to defend -- if there is additional evidence in the house, why didn't someone just tell the police about it?

    On the other hand, if someone is trying to cover up evidence, the last thing they'd do is leave the house standing and full of everything. I agee... it makes no sense.

    There have been cases where a house was left vacant until minor children grow up and can decide what they want to do with it, but that doesn't apply in this case... the house was sold almost immediately, and the "minor children" are at retirement age now. I'm inclined to agree that the two families are somehow connected... but just WHAT that connection is, and the motivation for leaving the house standing but vacant are big unanswered questions.

    I also think this would be a great story for Scott... anyone want to volunteer to help out? I'd do it, but I'm way up in Portland...
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    I found the original Los Angeles Times article with pics of the family and the house but I keep trying to upload it and its over the limit for uploading here. Its a pdf file. Im not computer savy, so Im trying to figure out how to post it.

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    Great post! I am confused, too, why someone would just leave it empty...they must be loaded cause don't they still have to pay real estate taxes on the appraised value? Seems like they wasted 50 years worth of money and that is very odd!
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    This is by far one of the coolest threads I have read on here.

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    Ooooooooh! Spooky stuff. I love stories like this. *shiver*

    Thanks for posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by findadeathaddict View Post
    This is by far one of the coolest threads I have read on here.

    If not the BEST in this section of the forum...hell of job RV....so many questions with no answers.....I`m afraid if I was anywhere close, I`d get arrested for trying to get in.....this passage stuck in my mind

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    Very cool story!!!! I want to know more about this house...like who owned it before the doctor and his wife...from the outside, it looked really beautiful and just reading about the views!!! WOW and right next to a FLW house!! Very cool!!!
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    hmmmmmmm........

    An unconfirmed rumor circulated in the years after the Glendower tragedy: Harold Perelson had been discreetly committed by his wife for depression, then reacted violently when he was released, certain the news of his hospitalization would wreck his Inglewood medical practice. This was an era when even medical professionals would deal with mental health issues through doses of Milltown and a staff upper lip, and wives were often discouraged sometimes violently from taking serious family matters into their own hands.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbidMolly View Post
    hmmmmmmm........

    An unconfirmed rumor circulated in the years after the Glendower tragedy: Harold Perelson had been discreetly committed by his wife for depression, then reacted violently when he was released, certain the news of his hospitalization would wreck his Inglewood medical practice. This was an era when even medical professionals would deal with mental health issues through doses of Milltown and a staff upper lip, and wives were often discouraged sometimes violently from taking serious family matters into their own hands.


    Interesting...in the articles it did mention that they were also having financial difficulties. I wonder if the news of him being committed were leaked and his practice was starting to go downhill?

    I'm obsessed with this case...the house is just beautiful...and the story is just really interesting. So many questions...!!!
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    Something else doesn't add up... the guy was a DOCTOR, and the only way he could think of to kill his wife and daughter was to attack them with a ball peen hammer, then kill himself by drinking ACID?? He'd have had access to all kinds of drugs that would have made it a much cleaner, certain act.

    Was it possibly a spur of the moment action? Did his wife confront him and say she'd had enough and was leaving?

    I wonder if there was an inquest? It would also be VERY interesting to read the police report.

    Addendum: While I was writing this, Molly and Incognito were posting messages about rumors that the doctor was mentally ill. That might explain the extreme crudity of the attacks. It's also true that in those days someone being mentally ill was a disgrace to his entire family.

    I know personally of one case where a minister suggested to a doctor that the doctor's daughter needed mental help. The doctor and his wife nearly went ballistic, and flat-out refused to even discuss it. He and his wife are both dead now, but the daughter continued to bug the minister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerV View Post
    Something else doesn't add up... the guy was a DOCTOR, and the only way he could think of to kill his wife and daughter was to attack them with a ball peen hammer, then kill himself by drinking ACID?? He'd have had access to all kinds of drugs that would have made it a much cleaner, certain act.

    Was it possibly a spur of the moment action? Did his wife confront him and say she'd had enough and was leaving?

    I wonder if there was an inquest? It would also be VERY interesting to read the police report.

    Addendum: While I was writing this, Molly and Incognito were posting messages about rumors that the doctor was mentally ill. That might explain the extreme crudity of the attacks. It's also true that in those days someone being mentally ill was a disgrace to his entire family.

    I know personally of one case where a minister suggested to a doctor that the doctor's daughter needed mental help. The doctor and his wife nearly went ballistic, and flat-out refused to even discuss it. He and his wife are both dead now, but the daughter continued to bug the minister.

    RV I can`t find ANYTHING....I have tried EVERY site out there and I come with up nada....I have NEVER had that happen.....never....if he was mentally ill to the point of extreme aggression I doubt drugs and the easy way out would have entered his head, doctor or not....I am still working on this one, because it`s driving me crazy !!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbidMolly View Post
    RV I can`t find ANYTHING....I have tried EVERY site out there and I come with up nada....I have NEVER had that happen.....never....if he was mentally ill to the point of extreme aggression I doubt drugs and the easy way out would have entered his head, doctor or not....I am still working on this one, because it`s driving me crazy !!!!!!!!!!
    Yeah...me too!!! Nada!!! Very, very fustrating!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by girl incognito View Post
    Yeah...me too!!! Nada!!! Very, very fustrating!!!

    Usually you can get some pics, or something, but this is crazy....let me know if you find anything, and I`ll do the same....blehhhhhhhh

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    This is fascinating. I must see more pictures.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cubbiecatz View Post
    This is fascinating. I must see more pictures.

    Good luck sweetie....it`s like they never existed...weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbidMolly View Post
    Good luck sweetie....it`s like they never existed...weird


    Hmmm, maybe it's like Area 51


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    Quote Originally Posted by cubbiecatz View Post
    Hmmm, maybe it's like Area 51
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbidMolly View Post
    Usually you can get some pics, or something, but this is crazy....let me know if you find anything, and I`ll do the same....blehhhhhhhh
    Will do!!!
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    I'm afraid I may have to reveal myself as a doddering old fossil who typed his college term papers on a manual typewriter because nobody had ever even heard of a PC at the time... anyway, point is, not EVERYTHING is on the web.

    With all the libraries and archives in the L.A. area, there must be SOME information, but that also means that someone has to find the time to personally dig through the actual archives... I know it's a novel concept, but people have actually been doing it for centuries .

    Does anyone know if this location is in the City of Los Angeles proper? If it was, then it was probably investigated by the LAPD. If it wasn't, then it may have been the LA County Sheriff's Department, or some other municipality's police department. Finding a police report that old may not be easy, but you'd think someone would have saved one that bizarre.

    It must have been reported in more than one newspaper, and that might mean looking through microfilm files, but at least we have a date to look under. Checking obituaries might be helpful also.

    There is another possibility... it just may be that the family clamped down and did their best to keep the lid on information. That would seem more likely if mental illness was involved. Also, they may have wanted to keep information from getting to the young children.

    The two recently-written news articles seem to confirm that the information isn't easily found... so just what the HELL went on???

    The really big problem of course is the fact that most of us live far, far away from L.A.
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    Here is another story I found from the Irony Supplement.... (edit later: Sorry lane4 I didn't see you had posted the link! Sorry!)





    (Editor’s Note: I was working against the clock on this piece, well aware that the L.A. Times’s inestimable cityside reporter Bob Pool had worked up a long takeout, which was published as today’s Column One feature. Pool’s article had been held for weeks, the result of a painfully pinched newshole. I kept my fingers crossed, but these things happen. I do have some photos of the property, and a more contemplative angle.)
    There are a lot of haunted houses in Los Angeles.
    I don’t mean infested with ghosts and vampires. I mean an event has occurred on the premises so horrific that no one is ever comfortable living within its walls again.
    L.A.’s two most famous haunted houses were the scenes of the Tate-La Bianca murders, committed 40 years ago this August. The house on Cielo Drive in Bel-Air where Sharon Tate and four others were slaughtered had tenants shuffle in and out for a quarter century after the carnage, with Trent Reznor among its last lessees. It was torn down in the mid-1990s and replaced with a 16,000-square-foot behemoth you can see from miles away. Even with the old house gone, it took more than a year to sell the property, as I recall the defunct New Times Los Angeles reporting. One would-be buyer from Saudi Arabia apparently backed out at the last minute, after being erroneously informed that hundreds of people had been killed there.
    The Los Feliz home where Leno and Rosemary La Bianca were stabbed to death still stands, but it’s changed hands many times. It also sports a different address, to keep away the curious.
    No such obstacles prevent looky-loos from visiting another haunted property that’s just a short drive from the former La Bianca residence. It’s nestled in a cul-de-sac on the 2400 block of Glendower Place.
    The mansion on the 2400 block of Glendower Pl. has obviously been vacant for decades.
    The beige Spanish-style house was built in 1925 and is enormous – more than 5,000 square feet, according to public records. It commands a gorgeous view of the Hollywood flatlands, reachable only by several steep and staggered stairways. The only home in the neighborhood with a more imposing presence is the fabled Frank Lloyd Wright-designed Ennis House, which looms over the Glendower home’s surprisingly small backyard.
    This year marks the 50th anniversary of a horrible murder-suicide that occurred there. According to the Los Angeles Times of Dec. 7, 1959, 50-year-old physician Harold N. Perelson killed his 42-year-old wife Lillian with a hammer while she slept. He also attacked his 18-year-old daughter. When his two younger children awoke to screaming, Perelson told them it was a nightmare, and that they should go back to sleep. They complied.
    The older daughter fled to a neighbor’s house. That neighbor went to confront Perelson. By the time the police arrived, Perelson was dead himself, having ingested poison.
    The living room of the Glendower house, photographed through a dirty window screen.
    The Glendower property is the kind producers, mini-real estate moguls and neurosurgeons salivate over, even in the current down market. But it’s obvious by peering into the grime-caked windows of this manse that it’s been vacant for decades.
    In a front room of the house, many plastic bowls sit on sheets of newspaper, which in turn covers either long-rotted carpet or wood. At first I thought they were for feeding pets, but then I realized the flat roof in that section of the house leaks like a sieve. A vintage radio sits on a shelf on the far wall behind the bowls. Most of the pieces of furniture visible in the rambling manse have long been covered with dusty sheets. Two yellow-vinyl wing chairs in the living room looked particularly garish, until I realized they were quite the style in the 1950s, which is probably the last time they were used. A back room is filled with old LPs, an ancient television, and a board game called “Table Tennis,” which looks nearly pristine, even though its graphics suggest it was produced eons ago.
    Bowls in a front room. They probably capture water from a leaky roof.
    There is a sadness in this unused home and its aging contents, particularly in light of the facts, of which there are few beyond the obvious. The L.A. Times of the 1950s was still a reactionary rag that had yet to practice serious journalism. Its first-day story of the tragedy ended on a singularly useless note: the names of the Los Angeles Police Department detectives who were first to arrive on the scene. It did mention that Harold Perelson had been experiencing some financial difficulties. Even in its current diminished state, the Times delved far deeper into the recent murder-suicide of the Lupoe family (and all the other murder suicides of recent years).
    An unconfirmed rumor circulated in the years after the Glendower tragedy: Harold Perelson had been discreetly committed by his wife for depression, then reacted violently when he was released, certain the news of his hospitalization would wreck his Inglewood medical practice. This was an era when even medical professionals would deal with mental health issues through doses of Milltown and a staff upper lip, and wives were often discouraged — sometimes violently — from taking serious family matters into their own hands.

    An ancient television and board game (far right), sit in a back room.
    I tried to revisit the Perelson tragedy myself, locating what I believed to be Harold Perelson’s son Joel, who is living in New York (I couldn’t find the two other Perelson children). Joel was 13 when his parents died; he would be in his 60s now. It was a tough phone call to make. Not quite as tough as some of the obit calls I made as a cub reporter, but nor was it something I was itching to do.
    After the line rang perhaps 10 times, I received one of those robotic answering machine messages: “Hello. No one is here to take your call. Please call again later.” I was then cut off. A second call I made the following day was met with the same result. It was exactly the kind of message you would expect to hear from a home where someone did not want to be disturbed by outsiders. Ever.
    The Ennis House looms over the Glendower property's backyard.
    The only professional trace that remains of Joel’s father was an article he published in the Southern Medical Journal in August 1947. It was entitled: “Occipital Nerve Tenderness: A Sign of Headache.”
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    Cool thread now I'm hooked! I wish I can find out more. Its a shame the house is being left to rot, all of those bowls of water from the ceiling. It must smell moldy in there!


    Found a map of location of the house:

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    SPPPPPOOOOKKKKYYY! Ok click the link... you will be right in front of the house! Like you are standing there! use your mouse to click around to get the right frame (you want to click the white arrow just once after you turn around to face the white car at the garage) . God I love google maps!! The address is 2475 Glendower Place Los Angeles CA 90027.


    <http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...32180057564938>
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    Ok here is another link that might be of interest. It lists the square ft. of the home and property and a ariel view. The house is big but the property is huge! I would kill to own that house... lol kill... lol

    oooo two garages! Hubby would so love it!

    http://lalife.com/address/2475_Glend...90027/birdseye


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    You did a better job of finding it than me.

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    Thanks Shano. This story is a spinetingler. What a tragic story. Still, you wonder how the surviving children are doing after all these years.

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    OK people, when I win the mega-lottery, I'm gonna make the current owner an offer he can't refuse, then I'm gonna restore the place, and you'll all be invited to a Hag party in that upstairs ballroom!

    And the 1954 Chrysler Imperial and the 1965 Chrysler New Yorker will go quite nicely in the extra garage!
    You say you've lost your mind? Well, if you ever find it again, please look and see if mine is there too!

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    I have to say I love stories like this. Old huge houses with a past fascinate me. So when I get on a kick I find it! But you provided me with a starting map so that helped!


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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerV View Post
    OK people, when I win the mega-lottery, I'm gonna make the current owner an offer he can't refuse, then I'm gonna restore the place, and you'll all be invited to a Hag party in that upstairs ballroom!

    And the 1954 Chrysler Imperial and the 1965 Chrysler New Yorker will go quite nicely in the extra garage!

    Not before I get my 1940 Caddy, 1963 Buick, & 1973 Mustang in first!!! Now you make me want to run out in my pj's and go buy a lotto ticket! But don't worry I'd invite you for a party too! lol Wow would that be a great place to have a "sleep over"!! Except no one would sleep, we all would be busy snapping pics of us in the crime scene ala Scott!


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    I forgot to thank you Shano!

    Keep playing the lotto Roger, I'm ready to party!

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    LA Doctor Kills Wife and Self
    [SIZE=-1]Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver[SIZE=-1] - Dec 7, 1959[/SIZE]
    [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]I struck. with hammer by her father, Dr. Harold N. Perelson, who killed his wife and then ... He was Dr. Harold N. Perelson, 50, of 2475 Glen- dower PI., ... [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]HAMMERS WIFE TO DEATH, THEN TAKES POISON[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver (Pay-Per-View)[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]All 2 related[/SIZE] - [SIZE=-1]Related web pages[/SIZE]

    Strain and Allergy Cited as Causing Headaches
    [SIZE=-1]Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver[SIZE=-1] - May 3, 1955[/SIZE]
    [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]SAN FRANCISCO May 2 LM-A headache often can have two causes and the re- moval of just one of them won t stop it, Dr. Harold W. Perelson of Los Angeles told ... [/SIZE]
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    Strain and Allergy Cited as Causing Headaches
    [SIZE=-1]Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver[SIZE=-1] - May 3, 1955[/SIZE]
    [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]A headache often can have two causes and the removal of just one of them won't stop it, Dr. Harold W. Perelson of Los Angeles told the California Medical ... [/SIZE]
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    Raleigh Register, The (Beckley, West Virginia) on 12 8, 1959 Newspaper...
    [SIZE=-1]Subscription - Raleigh Register - Ancestry.com[SIZE=-1] - Dec 8, 1959[/SIZE]
    [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]... the same weapon and later took his own life with drugs. Ait one point in the frenzied predawn attack, Dr. Harold N perelson, 52, told one of his chil dren. [/SIZE]


    here are a few articles but you have to pay to view
    I told my lawyer he's better step it up or we would both end up on an episode of "SNAPPED"

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    Star-News (Pasadena, California) on 12 7, 1959 Newspaper Archives at...
    [SIZE=-1]Subscription - Star-News - Ancestry.com[SIZE=-1] - Dec 7, 1959[/SIZE]
    [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Those were the words Deborah Perelson, 11, heard her physician father say to her yesterday ... Today she knew the night mare was real her father. Dr. Harold. [/SIZE]
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    Official Gazette of the United States Patent Office‎ - Page 926

    [SIZE=-1]by United States. Patent Office - Patents - 1971
    ... HYPODERMIC SYRINGE FOR INJECTING DRUGS FROM AMPOULES Harold N. Perelson,
    Ozone Park, and Sebastian Smigel. New York. NY Application December 30, 1938
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    Quarterly‎ - Page 23

    [SIZE=-1]by Los Angeles County Museum Museum Patrons' Association - 1948
    Harold Jackson rover Jacoby Irs. Benjamin .... MD Joseph S. Pelt George
    Pepperdine Dr. Harold N. Perelson Mrs. George R. Pfeiffer Miss Robin Pichel ...
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    History of the Long Island College Hospital, Long Island College of Medicine ...‎ - Page 410

    [SIZE=-1]by Downstate Medical Center (N.Y., Downstate Medical Center (N.Y.) Alumni Association, Downstate Medical Center (N.Y.) Alumni Association, Alumni Association - 1960 - 448 pages
    ... James A., '55 373 PAPPAS, Anthony, '46 312 PAPPAS, George N., '44 297
    PAPROCKI, ... Thomas E., '51 345 PERELSON, Harold N., '35 237 PERFETTO, Angelo J
    ., ...
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    Directory / California. Board of Medical Examiners‎ - Page 122

    [SIZE=-1]1941
    People, Stewart A. (1) Tuscaloosa, Ala, Peoples, Stuart Z. (1) Sonoma Peppers,
    Charles H. (1) Riverside Percy, James P. (1) Los Angeles Perelson, Harold N. ...
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    Directory of Physicians and Surgeons, Osteopaths, Drugless Practitioners ...‎ - Page 448

    [SIZE=-1]by California Board of Medical Examiners - Physicians - 1957
    2, '49 (Cr 12974) 1'50 — 529 E. 10th St., Long Petersen, Harold Ewald: Cal. 12,
    '25 (A-04052) 1'25 — 321 N. Maclay St, San Fernando Petersen, Leroy T.; Neb. ...
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    Directory of Physicians and Surgeons, Osteopaths, Drugless Practitioners ...‎

    [SIZE=-1]by California Board of Medical Examiners - Physicians
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    Pepin, Wilfred A. (5) San Diego Pepper, Herman (1) San Mateo Peppers, Charles H.
    (1) Riverside Perelson, Harold N. (1) Los Angeles ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerV View Post
    OK people, when I win the mega-lottery, I'm gonna make the current owner an offer he can't refuse, then I'm gonna restore the place, and you'll all be invited to a Hag party in that upstairs ballroom!

    And the 1954 Chrysler Imperial and the 1965 Chrysler New Yorker will go quite nicely in the extra garage!

    YAYYYY.....and now thanks to you I may have to go to the library....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shano View Post
    SPPPPPOOOOKKKKYYY! Ok click the link... you will be right in front of the house! Like you are standing there! use your mouse to click around to get the right frame (you want to click the white arrow just once after you turn around to face the white car at the garage) . God I love google maps!! The address is 2475 Glendower Place Los Angeles CA 90027.


    <http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...32180057564938>

    I couldn't tell if there was a mailbox...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shano View Post
    SPPPPPOOOOKKKKYYY! Ok click the link... you will be right in front of the house! Like you are standing there! use your mouse to click around to get the right frame (you want to click the white arrow just once after you turn around to face the white car at the garage) . God I love google maps!! The address is 2475 Glendower Place Los Angeles CA 90027.


    <http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...32180057564938>

    Thank you! I love street view.


    Quote Originally Posted by RogerV View Post
    OK people, when I win the mega-lottery, I'm gonna make the current owner an offer he can't refuse, then I'm gonna restore the place, and you'll all be invited to a Hag party in that upstairs ballroom!

    And the 1954 Chrysler Imperial and the 1965 Chrysler New Yorker will go quite nicely in the extra garage!

    I could maybe chip in $20 to help out, but if I do, you gotta promise to leave the Christmas tree and presents. That's delightfully creepy.
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    If there is a mailbox, Scott will find & photograph it for all of us. Scott knows where the dead got their mail...and where their mail might be forwarded to. Another reason that we adore Scott; as we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baroque1 View Post
    LA Doctor Kills Wife and Self
    [SIZE=-1]Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver[SIZE=-1] - Dec 7, 1959[/SIZE]
    [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]I struck. with hammer by her father, Dr. Harold N. Perelson, who killed his wife and then ... He was Dr. Harold N. Perelson, 50, of 2475 Glen- dower PI., ... [/SIZE]

    I have this article. I have access to the Los Angeles Times archives. It is the article shown in the picture with the house in one of the first posts. The archives come up as pdf files. Its too big to post here. If someone can help me by letting me know how to reduce it so I can attach it.
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