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    I agree absolutely 100%. I don't think anyone would break a sweat if his identity was released and 'Natural Justice' was served, and I don't think there is a court of peers in the land that would convict the person that did it!!!
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    One of the two killers of Merseyside toddler James Bulger has been charged with possession and distribution of indecent images of children.

    Jon Venables, who killed James in 1993, was released from jail in 2001 and given a new identity and anonymity for life under a special court order.

    But Venables, now 27, was recalled to prison in February after allegedly breaching the terms of his licence.

    He is charged with two offences under the 1978 Protection of Children Act.
    Early stage

    It is alleged that he downloaded 57 indecent images of children between February 2009 and February 2010.

    He is secondly accused of distributing seven images between 1 and 23 February this year by allowing other people to access files on his computer through a peer-to-peer network.

    The case is at a very early stage and will return to court on 23 July. That hearing will be the first opportunity for Venables to indicate whether he will be pleading guilty or not guilty to the alleged offences.


    The Bulger family lawyer says there is "relief" Venables has been charged

    Were he to plead not guilty, he would eventually appear before a jury under his new name. If he pleads guilty, the case will quickly move to sentencing.

    Under the terms of Venables' anonymity order, the media is not allowed to report anything about his new identity and a jury would never know who he really is.

    In March, the then Justice Secretary Jack Straw announced that Venables had been returned to prison but said that it was not in the interests of a fair trial to publicise what had allegedly happened.

    Denise Fergus, James's mother, had called for the reason for the recall to be made public, saying as his mother she had "a right to know".
    'Disaster'

    Speaking outside court on Monday, Robin Makin, solicitor for James's father Ralph, attacked the Ministry of Justice for the way it had handled the case ever since Venables' recall.

    "We consider that the way this has been handled since news of Jon Venables being recalled to custody has been a disaster," he said.

    "The public authorities ought to behave quite differently and in due course further details are likely to emerge of the mistakes that were made. Ineptitude and incompetence spring to mind."

    Venables and his friend Robert Thompson were jailed for life when, as 10-year-olds, they took two-year-old James from a shopping centre in Bootle.

    The toddler's body was found on a disused railway line more than two miles away from where he had been taken.

    Venables and Thompson were given new identities on their release from prison in 2001 because of the risk that they would be victims of a vigilante attack.

    Media law expert Mark Stephens insisted that despite the publicity it was "almost certain" that Venables could get a fair trial.

    He said: "The judge has gone to extraordinary lengths, as has the prosecution. They have worked with the defence to make sure that a fair trial can happen and that justice will out at the end of the day."


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/10369277.stm

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    I vote for a public stoning sentence!

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    he should do the life sentence he was given as a kid and extra for this new lot.

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    I can't wrap my mind around the protection these vicious murderers get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaRaRamona View Post
    I can't wrap my mind around the protection these vicious murderers get.
    i know it right?~ it just disgusts me, i don't care if they were just 10 yr olds, they stopped being 10 when they plotted & carried out the murder of baby james~ how they were given a second chance seeing what they did to poor baby james cannot be explained to me so i can accept it~ they should never see the light of day again~

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    I don't understand judges that think they deserve protection like that. No, they won't ever be treated normally because of what they've done, isn't that kind of the point? They should be forced to wear T-Shirts bearing James' face every day of their lives.

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    We need to bring back the death sentence for little fuckers like these. If they aint breathing they can't hurt anyone ever again.
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    If you are 10 when you torture and kill a child, you are done you are not going to be rehabilitated, fixed or cured. If anything, you are going to turn into a bigger monster than you were at 10. The UK shouldn't spend money on protecting these guys so they can have a life, they don't deserve to live in society after violating society's basic rules. I hope Thompson screws up soon and ends up behind bars, then we can just hope for some prison justice!
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    They should have been snuffed out at ten
    We don't need this excrement in the gene pool

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    Did these two dirt bags reproduce each of their own devil spawn by any chance?

    Heaven help us all if that happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurrPurr View Post
    Did these two dirt bags reproduce each of their own devil spawn by any chance?

    Heaven help us all if that happened.
    I think Thompson has a child now and the mother has no idea who he actually is.
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    God I hope someone outs Venables

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    I cannot believe he only got 2 years. And to judges in the UK really wear those silly wigs?

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-offences.html

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    This bastard should be left to rot and jail and not get a quater of a million pounds spent on giving him yet another identity when he gets out of prison. The justice system in this country is a joke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smg View Post
    This bastard should be left to rot and jail and not get a quater of a million pounds spent on giving him yet another identity when he gets out of prison. The justice system in this country is a joke!
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    I feel so bad for James' mother. How was his murder not relevant? Did he not put a stick in James' anus for sport? Isn't that sort of related to early stages of child pornography?

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    Now he is into child porn.

    Wonder what crime he will commit next.

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    Jame's mother Denise had a right to know who they were. They did a horrific thing to her son. She should of been notified just out of common curtsey.

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    Ahh yes, the stuff dreams are made of for all the women around the world. A murderer and pedophile, all in one. And she brings her kids to see him. Wonders never cease. How did she find out who he was? Did she bang him and then in the post-coital convo say, "Oh, by the way, I killed a little boy when I was 10. No, it wasn't just any murder. We tortured him and then left him on train tracks. You want another 'go of it?"

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    Venables was having sex with a female guard while in prison - just another reason for the death penalty

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370433/James-Bulger-killer-Jon-Venables-sex-female-prison-worker-release.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post
    Venables was having sex with a female guard while in prison - just another reason for the death penalty

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370433/James-Bulger-killer-Jon-Venables-sex-female-prison-worker-release.html

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    for venables or the prison guard? lol
    pull the string!

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    Child Killer Jon Venebles new identity leaked...

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-internet.html

    Its about time and I for one would love to know where on the net they are!

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    I hope everyone gets a good look at him and remembers his face! Sounds like he's still a pervert!
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    It amazes me that he was given a new identity and fresh start after the crime he committed. Where is a vigilante when ya need one?

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj1lIZUUwKM
    This guys website has been shut down not sure how long the YouTube link will work until that gets shut down he has had to make a new fb page
    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...666017&sk=wall

    seems like everyones saving the pics to their pc's or sharing them around so hundreds of people will know what he looks like as an adult

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...o.342198591682 also on here too
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    That seems to happen a lot in England- didn't Mary Bell get a new identity?
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    Good, he dosent deserve his identity to be a secret dirty fucker.

    Someone wrote on one of the facebook pages that Thomson's pics and info was being released aswell, i dont know if thats true or not.
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    [SIZE=2][SIZE=2]Oh my god, I felt sick for a second then... He's the image of someone my friend used to work with!

    I think those pictures are definitely of Venables... especially when you compare it to his school picture.

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    I've always had a strong interest in this case, I'm from Liverpool and one of my earliest memories that I can remember clearly is sitting in my Nan's living room, watching on the news that they'd found James's body and seeing the chaos when everyone found out they'd arrested two ten year olds.

    Imo there was no way at all that they should have been released when they were... They had a better life inside that place then they ever would have had outside, it's like they were rewarded for murdering an innocent little boy.

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    Apparently they're working on getting him yet ANOTHER new identity - but what's the point? Everyone knows what he looks like now, getting a new name isn't going to change his face!
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    and now hes getting another.....British Justice at its best NOT!

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    Believe nothing that POS rag prints. I wouldn't wipe my arse with The S*n. Having said that, there's a special place in Hell for those two scumbags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discod View Post
    and now hes getting another.....British Justice at its best NOT!

    Ah yes the good old British way, protect the abuser forget the victims.
    Makes you sick dosen't it.
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    How old was he when he committed this murder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michihunt View Post
    How old was he when he committed this murder?
    10 years old
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    Protecting the abuser! Why in the world was he given a new identity? Did he ever get in trouble for the crime, even at 10 yrs. old?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnaMc View Post
    Protecting the abuser! Why in the world was he given a new identity? Did he ever get in trouble for the crime, even at 10 yrs. old?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger

    Oh and he's up for parole again after being sent down again for having and distributing child pornography.
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    yes the highest level of child porn found on his computer.....shouldnt things like personal computers for people like this be checked??? Its not just in The Sun its all over the British media,has anyone looked at the vid.I have he was working in a Pizza Hut in Warrington at the time of the new arrest! The guy who uploaded the video is ready to expose Robert Thompson too now...

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    The detention and subsequent jailing for child abuse images

    Thompson was held at the Barton Moss secure unit in Manchester, which housed 14 young offenders a...nd was divided into three wings, including one for girls. Venables was detained in Vardy House, a small eight-bedded unit at Red Bank secure unit in St. Helens on Merseyside the same facility where, 25 years prior,Mary Bell had been held for half of her 12-year sentence. These locations were not publicly known until after the boys' release.

    Both also spent a short time in other child secure units including the Atkinson Unit in Exeter, Devon.

    Details of the boys' lives were recorded twice daily on running sheets and signed by the member of staff who had written them. The records were stored at the units and copied to officials in Whitehall. The boys were taught to lie about their real names and to conceal the crime they had committed which resulted in them being in the units. Venables' parents regularly visited their son at Red Bank, just as Thompson's mother did every three days at Barton Moss.

    The boys received education and rehabilitation; despite initial problems, Venables was said to have eventually made good progress at Red Bank, resulting in him being kept there for the full eight years, despite the facility only being a short-stay remand unit.Thompson was said, by a social worker who observed him for his eight years at Barton Moss, to be well-behaved and intelligent, and to have coped well with his situation, adjusting to life in the secure unit quickly, but never showing any remorse or interest in his crime. By the age of 14, Thompson was taken on outings to the theatre, the Lake District, and shopping centres, where he could spend some of the 60-per-month allowance he received. At the age of 16, he acquired a girlfriend, a fellow inmate who served time in the unit for one year.

    Venables was taken on trips to Wales, swimming in Wigan, and once to watch a Manchester United football match at Old Trafford. Both boys, however, were reported to suffer posttraumatic stress disorder, and Venables in particular told of experiencing nightmares and flashbacks to the murder
    Venables' relationships and other misdemeanours

    In the aftermath of his imprisonment in 2010, allegations were reported in the media of Venables' sexual encounters with a female member of staff at the secure unit he was detained in while serving his original murder sentence. In April 2011, these allegations were outlined in a Sunday Times Magazine article written by David James Smith, who had been following the Bulger case since the 1993 trial, and again later in a BBC documentary entitled Jon Venables: What Went Wrong?. Shortly before his 2001 release and when aged 17, Venables was alleged to have had sex with a woman who worked at the Red Bank secure unit where he was held. The female staff member was accused of sexual misconduct and suspended; she never returned to work at Red Bank.

    A spokesman for St Helens Borough Council denied that the incident had been covered up, saying: "All allegations were thoroughly investigated by an independent team on the orders of the Home Office and chaired by Arthur de Frischling, a retired prison governor."

    Venables began living independently in March 2002. Some time thereafter, he began a relationship with a woman who had a five-year-old child. It is not known whether Venables had already begun downloading child abuse images at the time of dating the woman, though he denies having ever met the child. In 2005, when Venables was in his mid-20s, his probation officer met another girlfriend of his, who was aged 17. After a number of "young girlfriends" it was presumed that Venables was having a delayed adolescence.

    After a period of apparently reduced supervision, Venables began excessively drinking, taking drugs, downloading child pornography, as well as visiting Merseyside (a breach of a fundamental condition of his licence). In 2008 a new probation officer noted that he spent "a great deal of leisure time" playing video games and on the Internet. In September that year, Venables was arrested on suspicion of affray after a fight outside a nightclub; he claimed he was acting in self-defence and the charges were later dropped after he agreed to go on an alcohol-awareness course.

    Three months later he was found to be in possession of cocaine; he was subjected to a curfew.

    Jon Venables (PJ) to his friends aka Paul Jon Williams was working in a Warrington Pizza hut (Riverside Retail Park) doing jobs like mopping the floors and washing up. He made a few friends and acted normal, and went about life without suspicion

    On two separate occasions, Venables revealed to a friend his true identity. It was on 22 February 2010 that Venables phoned his probation officer to report his fear that his identity had been compromised. Upon arriving at his flat, the officer found Venables attempting to remove or destroy the hard drive of his computer. This led to the confiscation of the computer and discovery of the child abuse images......

    In July 2010, Jailed for 2 years.

    Eight of the images were at level four, the second most serious category of images of child sex abuse. Two were level three, three were level two, and 44 were level one, the least serious, he added. The images involved children as young as two and some showed the rape of young girls.

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    I guess he'll be given another new identity this time too! Why are they protecting someone like that? They need to let him be "taken care of."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnaMc View Post
    I guess he'll be given another new identity this time too! Why are they protecting someone like that? They need to let him be "taken care of."
    Oh now his photo has been leaked im sure theres a nice razor blade waiting for him on the inside....dont think it will be long before hes got to

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    Quote Originally Posted by heaven01uk View Post
    Ah yes the good old British way, protect the abuser forget the victims.
    Funny, I'd thought that was a purely American concept!
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    Not a fan of the death penalty (only cause they might get it wrong) but its seems that scum like this should not to able to breathe, I'm so hoping what comes around goes around and theres a train track with there names on it!!!

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    The guy who runs the amazing site C.hildren H.ave R,ights I.n S.ociety (CHRIS) has now been served with an injuction preventing him from exposing anymore info http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/m...00002072666017 I say carry on and let the judges deal with the public outcry, Chris will have thousands of people standing at his side!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by discod View Post
    The guy who runs the amazing site C.hildren H.ave R,ights I.n S.ociety (CHRIS) has now been served with an injuction preventing him from exposing anymore info http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/m...00002072666017 I say carry on and let the judges deal with the public outcry, Chris will have thousands of people standing at his side!!

    I saw that, takes the piss. He said he was going to release Thompsons info anyway and is willing to go to prison for it. Guys got balls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelina View Post
    Not a fan of the death penalty (only cause they might get it wrong) but its seems that scum like this should not to able to breathe, I'm so hoping what comes around goes around and theres a train track with there names on it!!!
    Also against the death penalty here! I am also against any kind of sex offender being put any where else other than general pop!
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    Quote Originally Posted by heaven01uk View Post
    I saw that, takes the piss. He said he was going to release Thompsons info anyway and is willing to go to prison for it. Guys got balls.
    Good for him!
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    I bet the other people in the Pizza Hut photo felt sick when they saw it and realised who they'd been working with. I know I would have.

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