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    Amanda Todd - Bullied

    A little parenting could have gone a long way. This was totally preventable. Sad that girls today think they have to flash their goods in order for people to like them.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/12/world/...ing/index.html



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    So incredibly sad.

    Here, is the real result of real bullying
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    She was a very beautiful girl.. It's too bad that she couldn't of held her head high and got through the bullying. My thought while reading about this was if she changed schools to get away from her bullies, she should have taken that extra step to delete her facebook account. May have helped a little to not see what was being said, may not have. We will never know now. I just thank my lucky stars that social media wasn't around when I was growing up.

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    I can't believe that there wasn't even one person in her life that was willing to help her or stand up for her or just make her feel like she's not alone. That makes me so sad.

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    I agree MM, where were this girl's parents when all of this was happening and why didn't they go to bat for her? I know that our kids have to grow a thick skin but sometimes they can be so overwhelmed they can't deal. That's when we have to step in.

    My youngest was bullied in middle school. The principal dropped the ball so we took the bullies and their families to juvenile court. The bullies were enrolled in behavior programs and their parents had to pay all court costs. I also went to a member of the school board who came down pretty hard on the principal. He finally suspended the kids and changed the bullies' class schedules so they would never be in the same room with my son at any time. From that point on my son excelled, no more problems. And another good thing that came from it... one of the boys had straight zeros for grades. After we took em to court and he was enrolled in these different programs he also began to excel, to the point of graduating a year early. It completely turned that kid's life around. I think he was just trying to get some attention, and once he got the right kind it did him a world of good. He has since apologized to my son and they've become friends. Some might say I went too far, but if I won't stand up for my kid no one else will either.

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    Rosies, I am happy with the success you had due in large part to your tenacity and protection. I admire that. I just want to submit that we don't know Amanda's parents. The articles I've read indicate that she'd moved, changed schools, been on medication, in counseling, etc. I would think her parents would have made this happen for her. Sometimes we parents try the very best we can with what we have/what we know and things don't work out so well.

    Just wanted to put that out there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by maryd View Post
    Rosies, I am happy with the success you had due in large part to your tenacity and protection. I admire that. I just want to submit that we don't know Amanda's parents. The articles I've read indicate that she'd moved, changed schools, been on medication, in counseling, etc. I would think her parents would have made this happen for her. Sometimes we parents try the very best we can with what we have/what we know and things don't work out so well.

    Just wanted to put that out there....
    True Mary, perhaps I did sound a bit judgemental. I do hope they did everything they could to save her.

    On the other hand, in her video she begs for someone to help her. Hard to say.
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    She's filmed at school being jeered, beaten up and left on the floor, then "teachers ran over but I just went and layd in a ditch". So the bullies are known, there are witnesses but no expulsion or police action. So much for "zero tolerance".

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    So sad. That made me want to cry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miho View Post
    A little parenting could have gone a long way. This was totally preventable. Sad that girls today think they have to flash their goods in order for people to like them.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/12/world/...ing/index.html
    I totally agree with you. I watched her youtube video, and it was obvious this poor girl was mentally unstable. I think it was a lot more than the bullying, but that's what pushed her over the edge. I don't understand why the parents didn't just unplug the computer, and not allow her to look at those sites where people were talking so terribly about her.

    My bf does intake at a behavioral health facility, and after I told him about this girl, he came to the conclusion that she should've had more professional help. This girl needed to be admitted as an in-patient, and given the proper therapy, tools and medication to allow her to get through all of this bullying and move on with her life. It seems like she was crying for help, and no one listened. Also, the douchebag who posted the pics of her boobs should be charged with distributing child pornography. She was only 15. I just wish she had a mom more like mine. Yeah, she's over-protective, but she would've gone down that Facebook page and called every damned kid's parents on there. It may not have done any good, but it would've been a good start.

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    I believe her parents are seperated.

    The worst part of all this, for me? AFTER her suicide and Youtube video. people were posting vile stuff about her on facebook - she deserved it, she was a skank, blah, blah, blah.

    We need a re-do on this whole generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duster View Post
    I believe her parents are seperated.

    The worst part of all this, for me? AFTER her suicide and Youtube video. people were posting vile stuff about her on facebook - she deserved it, she was a skank, blah, blah, blah.

    We need a re-do on this whole generation.
    That just ruined my morning. I just hope that something happens along the way which makes those people honestly and truly regret what they've done. Then again it's looking more and more like humility just isn't possible for an increasing number of people.

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    Not that this is any excuse for anything, but I'm also baffled about why any 15-year-old would think it's a good idea to text pics of her funbags, to anyone. These kids have grown up with the internet - they must know what can happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duster View Post
    Not that this is any excuse for anything, but I'm also baffled about why any 15-year-old would think it's a good idea to text pics of her funbags, to anyone. These kids have grown up with the internet - they must know what can happen.
    You're so right Duster regarding growing up on the internet. I'm astonished how many people put very personal conversations on public forums - age of kids, where they live, school, etc. It's such a scary world we live in today, unfortunately.
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    its very sad when people resort to suicide.

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    I have a truly profound sadness not only for today's youth but for the human race in general. Technology has stopped most of us from truly communicating and listening to and hearing others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KissingJosh View Post
    I have a truly profound sadness not only for today's youth but for the human race in general. Technology has stopped most of us from truly communicating and listening to and hearing others.
    Excellent post. Thanks.
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    If my mom ever found out that I texted, tweeted, emailed or sent in any way naked pictures of myself to anyone, I wouldn't have had the option of suicide. My mom would have killed me. I definitely wouldn't have had the option of continuing to use the internet as a pastime for a long, long time.

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    Last nite after reading about her here, I searched for her. There are some MEAN memes out there of her. I cant believe people can be so horrible. I read where someone said she had been flashing herself more then just the one time. I dont care if she flashed her shit every day, no it wasnt a good thing for her to do at all, but it doesnt make it right for her to be bullied. Kinda like the woman who says she was raped and people start saying, it was her fault for the way she dressed.

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    Some of the assholes who continue to bully her even in death ( http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a...ative-messages) are being reported to the RCMP...
    Last edited by duster; 10-15-2012 at 02:00 PM.
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    I saw some things early which I reported. I hope these assholes and punished to the extent of the law. They are not very bright either, it's so easy to catch these people!
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    I hope the RCMP finds them and they "resist arrest" a little bit before they are taken to jail for a good long time.

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    I have a feeling that some of them will accidentally fall up the stairs on the way into the cop station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duster View Post
    I have a feeling that some of them will accidentally fall up the stairs on the way into the cop station.
    Lol. "....tripped and fell on my truncheon a few dozen times"

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    Quote Originally Posted by duster View Post
    Some of the assholes who continue to bully her even in death ( http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a...ative-messages) are being reported to the RCMP...

    Good!!!

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    This whole story makes me so angry but it is even more despicable after her death.

    The local paper here is reporting memorials and grief counsellors being rushed in to cope with the "trauma". Where was her grief counsellor? Where were all these fine upstanding students who are so shaken by her death when she needed a friend and support. The school must be dripping with teenage drama now.

    There was a picture of the football team wearing pink socks at a game in her honour. BS Nice way to bring attention to themselves when none of these guys would have given her the time of day and probably laughed alongside the bullies.

    And the bullies still bashing her after she is dead is no surprise to me. I have seen what online bullying is and can do. By middle age these thugs have their craft finely honed.

    Gawdalmighty I hope the authorities don't drop the ball on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BelleRain View Post
    Last nite after reading about her here, I searched for her. There are some MEAN memes out there of her. I cant believe people can be so horrible. I read where someone said she had been flashing herself more then just the one time. I dont care if she flashed her shit every day, no it wasnt a good thing for her to do at all, but it doesnt make it right for her to be bullied. Kinda like the woman who says she was raped and people start saying, it was her fault for the way she dressed.
    THIS.
    she was completely shamed. for years. for what?!

    if a stranger coerced a twelve-year-old to show him her breasts in real life, it's a sexual assault. and it's the attacker's fault.
    if it happens online, she is a whore? a twelve-year-old whore? a joke?
    followed by it from school to school and tortured by her peers. it's crazy.

    I have seen what they're writing on those facebook pages.
    I'm telling you right now that when I was 15 I would not have been able to take it.

    when I first read about Amanda my heart physically hurt. I don't feel any better about it days later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duster View Post
    I believe her parents are seperated.

    The worst part of all this, for me? AFTER her suicide and Youtube video. people were posting vile stuff about her on facebook - she deserved it, she was a skank, blah, blah, blah.

    We need a re-do on this whole generation.
    Oh wow. Talk about some cold hearted kids. Where are their parents? I agree with you 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenivere2011 View Post
    I totally agree with you. I watched her youtube video, and it was obvious this poor girl was mentally unstable. I think it was a lot more than the bullying, but that's what pushed her over the edge. I don't understand why the parents didn't just unplug the computer, and not allow her to look at those sites where people were talking so terribly about her.

    My bf does intake at a behavioral health facility, and after I told him about this girl, he came to the conclusion that she should've had more professional help. This girl needed to be admitted as an in-patient, and given the proper therapy, tools and medication to allow her to get through all of this bullying and move on with her life. It seems like she was crying for help, and no one listened. Also, the douchebag who posted the pics of her boobs should be charged with distributing child pornography. She was only 15. I just wish she had a mom more like mine. Yeah, she's over-protective, but she would've gone down that Facebook page and called every damned kid's parents on there. It may not have done any good, but it would've been a good start.
    Thats an excellent point. He should be charged. Anybody else would be.

    Then he could wear a label of his own, sexual offender, and see how he likes it.

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    This is just so sad. I agree, I hope they find the man who threatened to post the pics. He's a sick fuck. Sex offender status will suit him well. From the article, she just seemed so lost, lonely, wanting approval, looking for attention in all the wrong places. And the bullies? Publicly post their names & faces.

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    I can relate I was bullied,I never flashed any body parts. It got so bad that I wanted to kill myself. I kept telling myself I am better than they are. I would just stand there as they laughed, pushed me hit me called me names. I didn't let them see me cry. I would save that for when I got home and in my room by myself then I would cry. Kids are so cruel. It needs to stop.
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    I did a simple google search of her name and the boob pic came up as a meme that said "Illegal boobs... sweet!" Why in the hell have these not been taken down already? And as I said, the only terms I put into the search were Amanda Todd, and that's what I got. This just pisses me off.

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    "Illegal boobs... sweet!"
    Seriously? A dead girls boobs when she was THIRTEEN are really that spectacular?

    I can deduce 2 things from that statement.
    1. That guy didn't get to first base with a girl until AT LEAST his senior year of high school.
    2. Someone urinated in his mother.

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    Apparently the RCMP have a lead that the person is a 32 year old man who has been posting on child porn sites.
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    I got the same thing Rosies. Many different memes that had her boobs flashed. With mean things said. I had the same reaction. She is underaged, wouldn't that be child porn to have those up like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMandarin View Post
    Seriously? A dead girls boobs when she was THIRTEEN are really that spectacular?

    I can deduce 2 things from that statement.
    1. That guy didn't get to first base with a girl until AT LEAST his senior year of high school.
    2. Someone urinated in his mother.
    I think the best part of that guy ran down his mother's leg. What a disgusting excuse for a human being.
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    The hacker group Anonymous has outed the guy who was bullying her and extorting her; he is a 30 year old PEDOPHILE! I'm sure he groomed her enough to feel comfortable to flash him and then turned her life upside down by posting the pictures. Once that happened he was open prey for her peers at school. Anonymous is saying that they will basically harass him and more for the rest of his life. They also outed the guy who managed to get a hold of her Autopsy photo's and took over his twitter and everything.

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    I actually reported several Facebook users who had posted the images of her topless to Facebook. It's my understanding that this is nothing more than kiddie porn and is illegal to post anywhere, let alone Facebook. I got sick to my stomach when I saw them because all that kept running through my mind was "Dead little girl's breasts!" Who in the world would WANT to see that?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulvaness View Post
    The hacker group Anonymous has outed the guy who was bullying her and extorting her; he is a 30 year old PEDOPHILE! I'm sure he groomed her enough to feel comfortable to flash him and then turned her life upside down by posting the pictures. Once that happened he was open prey for her peers at school. Anonymous is saying that they will basically harass him and more for the rest of his life. They also outed the guy who managed to get a hold of her Autopsy photo's and took over his twitter and everything.
    Cyber Vigilantes? That's pretty sexy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulvaness View Post
    The hacker group Anonymous has outed the guy who was bullying her and extorting her; he is a 30 year old PEDOPHILE! I'm sure he groomed her enough to feel comfortable to flash him and then turned her life upside down by posting the pictures. Once that happened he was open prey for her peers at school. Anonymous is saying that they will basically harass him and more for the rest of his life. They also outed the guy who managed to get a hold of her Autopsy photo's and took over his twitter and everything.
    Good for Anonymous! Hopefully now the proper authorities can take this piece of shit off the web and the streets. Glad they got the sick fuck who got her autopsy photos too.
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    This has become such a horrid and sad mess. She should be resting in peace and not being degraded any further.

    Now here is a guy who deserves the maximum penalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulvaness View Post
    The hacker group Anonymous has outed the guy who was bullying her and extorting her; he is a 30 year old PEDOPHILE! I'm sure he groomed her enough to feel comfortable to flash him and then turned her life upside down by posting the pictures. Once that happened he was open prey for her peers at school. Anonymous is saying that they will basically harass him and more for the rest of his life. They also outed the guy who managed to get a hold of her Autopsy photo's and took over his twitter and everything.
    Someone had her autopsy pics?

    I know we are hags and I work with the dead, but honestly, who would try to post those?

    Sick bastards
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    Kids today are fucking rude little sons of a bitches!

    I thought bullying was bad when I was in High School (and that's why I dropped out and got my GED) But, it wasn't bad enough where I wanted to kill myself over it!

    Teenagers today must not have a heart. To allow it to get that bad where another person takes their own life....and they don't care. Dear God.....These children needed a good ass whipping when they were younger.
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    I think teenagers have always been what they are. It is because we are awash in in news and stories 24/7 that they all seem like self centered, arrogant little snots.

    Sarah who goes to classes, does okay in them, volunteers at the animal shelter, and loves her parents isn't going to make headlines.

    These bullies and sociopaths are the ones the media focuses on.
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    Kids are different today. There is no way they are the same.

    I graduated high school in 1986 - there was no way kids could be bullied the way they can be now because we didnt have the internet, cell phones, etc.

    However, kids are different. They are self-centered arrogant little assholes.

    Comparing kids to today to those of before is apples to oranges. They arent the same. Not even close.

    Thats why I thank God I grew up when I did and I fear for my daughter. Kids today have to be tough as nails to make it through. I send my child to a private school and feel fortunate to be able to do so, it cuts down on a lot of stuff, but it still worries me all the time.
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    I think half of junior high/high school kids have always been A-holes. Modern technology has just made it easier for the not so clever A-holes to cause more damage more easily.

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    You only have to study a bit of history to realize people are pretty much the same as they have always been. Kids have been put under the microscope today and if one burps it is national news.

    There was always bullying but like being sexually molested it was never ever talked about. Today it is a lot more visible.

    As for the private school idea there are just as many drugs, assholes, bullies.
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    You only have to study a bit of history to realize people are pretty much the same as they have always been. Kids have been put under the microscope today and if one burps it is national news.

    There was always bullying but like being sexually molested it was never ever talked about. Today it is a lot more visible.

    As for the private school idea there are just as many drugs, assholes, bullies.

    A quote attributed to Socrates. Nothing changes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMandarin View Post
    I think half of junior high/high school kids have always been A-holes. Modern technology has just made it easier for the not so clever A-holes to cause more damage more easily.

    Not very smurfy. Not smurfy at all.
    Totally agree!!!! Makes me scared of my daughter who is too young to get into FB and other social media. But I try to keep myself media savvy, plus it's part of my business, so my kid won't be a part of this. Dang, my heart bleeds for this girl.
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    I agree that kids are no different today than they were 50 years ago, it's just that they have more access to media to bully someone with the advent of cyberspace. I read an article from Florence Henderson, (Mom on "The Brady Bunch") and she stated that the meanest people she ever met were kids when she was growing up, she's well into her 70's now. I also think it is very few who escape being bullied, lets face it, it's part of growing up. Your body is experiencing pubescent changes that you didn't have to deal with before, a lot of children have trouble dealing with the hormonal changes and emotions, been a fact of life since the beginning of time.

    I also know that some kids crave more attention than others, and have a tendency to bring "unwanted attention" on themselves. Maybe Dad is never around, or Mom is too demanding and critical, and they search for those that will fulfill their need to "fit in". I don't know anything about the parents, whether they sought help for their little girl, or just simply shrugged it off as nothing more than a normal part of growing up, but either way, their little girl is now gone, and they're left to deal with what could they have done to have saved her. I definitely know how I would have dealt with it, the principle and those involved would be remembering my name well upon their death beds!

    The little scumbags that continue to taunt her, even in death, need to be dealt with and severely punished. Why schools don't take a more active role in following up on children being bullied is beyond me, but since I am not involved in our education system, there's two sides to every story. We all know the story about the boy who cried wolf too many times, and in the end no one believed him. I know this much, if you have a strong will to survive, you most likely will, and those that don't, wont. This is a sad story of a very young person who felt that death was the only option to get away from her tormentors, and from where the rest of us stand, there wasn't anyone around to tell her differently.
    By my troth, I care not; a man can die but once; we owe God a death.... He that dies this year is quit for the next.
    --William Shakespeare!

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