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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletnose View Post
    Like beating a dead horse! Will this deabte ever end? Ritchie had 3 hits before his untimely death and who knows how far his career would have went. But bigger than Elvis?
    I've heard the same about Buddy Holly. My opinion? NO WAY to both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletnose View Post
    Like beating a dead horse! Will this debate ever end? Ritchie had 3 hits before his untimely death and who knows how far his career would have went. But bigger than Elvis?
    Quote Originally Posted by cindyt View Post
    I've heard the same about Buddy Holly. My opinion? NO WAY to both.
    I agree. How can people say, with such certainty, that this or that artist or actor/actress will have a long and lasting career?
    Didn't know that was a thing...

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    I finally broke down and watched La Bamba. I had never seen it before. It was released the week before I was born and it was number #3 on my birthday. Awesomeness.

    I admit....I'm not a big crier when it comes to movies. But, at the end...when his mom found out. I cried like a freaking baby.

    Anyone know if his brother is still alive? His sisters as well?
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    IIRC, Valens' brother Bob died a few years ago. I'm not sure if his sisters are still living. Join the club, toddmanning, I cried like a baby when I saw "La Bamba."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanwench View Post
    IIRC, Valens' brother Bob died a few years ago. I'm not sure if his sisters are still living. Join the club, toddmanning, I cried like a baby when I saw "La Bamba."
    Who couldn't? I know I sure did...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanwench View Post
    IIRC, Valens' brother Bob died a few years ago. I'm not sure if his sisters are still living. Join the club, toddmanning, I cried like a baby when I saw "La Bamba."
    I thought Bob was still alive after I read the tribute site to Valens. Bob was a total badass looking dude in those pics I saw of him on there.

    So sad to hear that Bob is gone now too.
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    Isnt there an entire website dedicated to the criminal investigation on the valens, booper and holly deaths? I think i maybe have read about it at one point.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanwench View Post
    IIRC, Valens' brother Bob died a few years ago. I'm not sure if his sisters are still living. Join the club, toddmanning, I cried like a baby when I saw "La Bamba."
    Alan, do you have a link about Bob Morales dying?

    Last I heard, he was alive, as recent as 2010. I havent heard anything about him dying, or Irma his sister either.
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    I start crying when Bob screams "Richie!" I could cry right now and I haven't see LaBamba in ages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lisalouver View Post
    Alan, do you have a link about Bob Morales dying?

    Last I heard, he was alive, as recent as 2010. I havent heard anything about him dying, or Irma his sister either.
    Quoting myself LOL

    Alanwench, you mentioned Bob Morales dying - I still havent been able to find anything on this.

    Please post a link if you have one - thanks!!
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    FYI. an episode of The Will on Oct.25th will feature a story about Ritchie and the problems his family had over the rights to his property and his songs. The show airs on the ID channel (Investigation Discovery).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletnose View Post
    FYI. an episode of The Will on Oct.25th will feature a story about Ritchie and the problems his family had over the rights to his property and his songs. The show airs on the ID channel (Investigation Discovery).
    Oooh...thanks for the tip. Will have to set my DVR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletnose View Post
    FYI. an episode of The Will on Oct.25th will feature a story about Ritchie and the problems his family had over the rights to his property and his songs. The show airs on the ID channel (Investigation Discovery).
    The show is pretty good. I recently saw the one with Tammy Wynette. Her daughters got royally screwed. They only got $5k each!

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    I stand corrected, Richie's brother Bob is very much alive. Richie's manager was a greedy bastard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanwench View Post
    I stand corrected, Richie's brother Bob is very much alive. Richie's manager was a greedy bastard!
    I missed this episode of The Will - but it will repeat tonight at 11. Was Bob on it?

    Just caught the end of it. See Larry Lehmer was on it, I met him a few times when he wrote the book The Day the Music died. Great guy, awesome book.
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    I think most peeps are posting on the buddy holly thread......
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    I saw the ID show tonight. Man, what an a-hole Bob Keene was to keep most of RV's royalties from the family like that.

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    ok thats it i have to get ID

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    Got the chance to watch the re-run. It was good. I was glad to see Connie, Irma and BOB! I always loved Bob.

    Way back in the 90's, got to meet them at one of the Winter Dance Parties at the Surf. I also participated in the petition to get Ritchie in the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. His family and friends were highly involved in that in the 90's.
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    I'm watching this right now. The whole thing is just sad.


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    I saw that episode, too. I was truly shocked that Bob Keene kept Richie's royalties to himself for so many years and gave almost nothing to his mother. I'm glad they finally challenged him, as Richie would have wanted them to.

    The next epi on The Will is Andy Warhol, should be interesting.

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    Every time the movie comes on I can't get sleepwalk out of my head for days. Bob on the bridge kills me every time. Sometimes I laugh awkwardly when he screams to pretend I'm not sad and uncomfortable.

    I was also surprised how Ritchie was actually a chubbier teen. Looking at him he seems very mature and I had a hard time believing he was only 17. Then again it was always hard to swallow Lou Diamond only playing a high schooler in that movie

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    I was just thinking how great he would have been as a guest on I love lucy as maybe an act n Ricky's club show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanwench View Post
    I stand corrected, Richie's brother Bob is very much alive. Richie's manager was a greedy bastard!
    He's a client at our vet hospital here in Watsonville.

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    Happy birthday, Ritchie. He would have been 73 today.

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    Happy Birthday, Richie
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    The movie La Bamba was mostly fiction! Ritchie had flown previously to February 1959. Plus Ritchie WAS NOT present when the accident happened at his school! He was attending a family members funeral. La Bamba is a great film, but if you actually know Ritchie's real story, you know what really went down. There was a book, The First Latino Rocker, that is really good!

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    Hubert Dwyer took the truth to his grave! RIP

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    Sharon it doesn't state in the movie that Ritchie was there during the accident at the school, he heard about it and heard his friend was killed, thus the dreams he had. No movie out there is going to get exactly everything 100 percent correct. The family was pleased how the movie turned out so I guess that is all that matters.
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    The Day The Music Died is a great book. I have it in my bio collection....

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    Ritchie was badly crushed and suffered massive cranial damage. Buddy's head damage was far more traumatic. The Bopper's body had been thrown through the fabric of the aircraft, and almost every bone was splintered in several places. Roger Peterson was crushed into a ball inside the wreckage. There was no fire, thank God.
    An investigation of the plane wreckage might reveal something, but it's rather doubtful of what. It is said to be buried someplace on the owners private land.
    There were no gunshots and no criminal actions leading to the crash; it was an under-experienced pilot flying in very marginal conditions with a fully loaded plane. An exhumation of the remains would reveal only bone breakage and little more.
    Ritchie was a barrier breaker at the beginning of both the rock and roll and civil rights eras. Flying with two Texas rockers shows something about how these guys cared about each other. Three decent, talented guys (four really), that put their faith in technology and lost it all in one gamble.

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    Odds are you're probably right about the gun, but we really don't know what happened before the crash.
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    The Big Bopper was exhumed a few years ago at the request of his son. In a remarkable state of preservation, or so the news story says. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...hardson-father
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    The Big Bopper was exhumed a few years ago at the request of his son. In a remarkable state of preservation, or so the news story says. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...hardson-father
    I have read this story many times, but it's still a good one. I can only imagine the mixed emotions that Jr. felt that day.

    I didn't know that Jr died in 2013 of heart problems - I wonder if he is buried near his dad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shejay View Post
    I have read this story many times, but it's still a good one. I can only imagine the mixed emotions that Jr. felt that day.

    I didn't know that Jr died in 2013 of heart problems - I wonder if he is buried near his dad?
    That had to have been a surreal moment, and a very sad one. I told some friends about it, and they wondered if any photos were taken. I wonder ? His biological sister died in 2010, leaving him 4 half siblings from his mother's second marriage, who sued him for royalties to his father's music after the death of their mother in 2004 ! http://www.mrt.com/news/article/Sibl...es-7779880.php
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    I saw what was supposed to be a head shot death pic taken sometime after the crash. If it was real it was probably an autopsy snap. His head was caved in on one side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cindyt View Post
    I saw what was supposed to be a head shot death pic taken sometime after the crash. If it was real it was probably an autopsy snap. His head was caved in on one side.
    If you mean Ritchie, his face would have been completely unrecognizable. The one side was crushed and the skull split. In the shots of him on the ground, the areas where snow drifted on his head were where the splits were located. From what I can tell, the Big Bopper was the most fortunate of the four on the plane.

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