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    sounds like tit pig is starting a new life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choff View Post
    For the last year or so there has been a rumor that Steve "Tit Pig" Hurley is dead. Hurley even though very short ( 5/5 max ) and older ( mid 50s ) he was/is a big star in bear porn between being very hairy, bearded, always seen smoking a cigar or a pipe during sex and unfortunately a lot of that sex he did in his movies was bareback even though Steve himself is HIV poz.

    Within the last year his profiles on the many of bear websites have been deleted ( odd since he was known to enjoy chatting with his fans ) and if that wasn't odd in itself even the mention of his whereabouts the postings are deleted. Yesterday on Facebook I asked about him as to whether or not he is still with in one of the bear groups only to see my question get deleted and received a very rude message from a mod saying "..why does it matter now ??" . WTH ????
    That is very strange. The last thing I read about him was a couple of years ago, that he was making a "comeback" in films. In reading this I backtracked and it looks like he made a film or two then that's it. Nothing else. There are some photos taken from 2014 , so it is kind of odd that you would get such a response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    That is very strange. The last thing I read about him was a couple of years ago, that he was making a "comeback" in films. In reading this I backtracked and it looks like he made a film or two then that's it. Nothing else. There are some photos taken from 2014 , so it is kind of odd that you would get such a response.
    Yes it was kinda odd. I guess they didn't want to say he was dead only for Hurley to reappear down the road. Sort of like in the case with another bear porn star that time it was Buster. Some years back rumor was Buster had died. Not only did he reappear he kinda relaunched his career by doing balloon porn. Yes there are guys out there with a fetish of popping balloons with their cigars naked. I don't get it but whatever floats their boat.

    Actually there are quite a few porn stars in the bear world who had disappeared and then resurfaced. Fitzdog disappeared for awhile but reappeared some years back in Denver in very bad shape. When I saw him it looked like he had a stroke. Then there was Matt Taggert. I was friends with him on Facebook for a time until he had deleted his profile there. I did get an email from him about two years ago he had overcame his problem with meth and found a job as a truck driver and he no longer involves himself with anything inside the bear community. Actually he blames the bears for getting him hooked on meth.

    Not surprised Hurley's comeback was short lived though. He has some serious competition now with a guy in North Carolina who has a following on Xtube. Like Steve he smokes cigars during sex but he is a good, at least 25 years younger than Hurley plus most of his porn is usually shot in a garage. Guess there are some guys out there who have a fantasy of having sex in a garage while the mechanic is smoking big cigars.
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    I remember Buster, and yeah, I have seen the balloon thing.. that I don't get ! But, if it makes people happy...lol. There was a guy here in Toronto, that I kind of knew from the clubs that got into porn, he went by the name of Ted Baer, did a video with Ray Stone for Bear Films. He disappeared after that, which I found odd because he was always out and about. Later found out he had moved out of the city and kept a very low profile. He showed up some time later doing bareback videos, and was gone again. No one I know has heard or seen him since. Porn is hard to live down for some I'm guessing. Ray Harley was also from here, he would strut around the streets making sure everyone knew what he did on the side ! Short, arrogant little bastard he was ! Last I heard he lives in England and is twice his size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    I remember Buster, and yeah, I have seen the balloon thing.. that I don't get ! But, if it makes people happy...lol. There was a guy here in Toronto, that I kind of knew from the clubs that got into porn, he went by the name of Ted Baer, did a video with Ray Stone for Bear Films. He disappeared after that, which I found odd because he was always out and about. Later found out he had moved out of the city and kept a very low profile. He showed up some time later doing bareback videos, and was gone again. No one I know has heard or seen him since. Porn is hard to live down for some I'm guessing. Ray Harley was also from here, he would strut around the streets making sure everyone knew what he did on the side ! Short, arrogant little bastard he was ! Last I heard he lives in England and is twice his size.

    I have Ted's movie Spunky Bears in my collection LOL. Both Fitzdog and Taggert did their movies through Bear Films as well. Fitzdog was in Rocky Mountin Bears with his partner Jack Johnson who is almost as bad off as Fitzdog is mainly due to his severe tobacco addiction talking at least 6 packs a day plus cigars and a few cans of skoal too. When I was in Colorado to attend OctoBEARfest back in 2012 both Jack & Fitz were there and Jack smelt so bad due to his smoking people were actually getting sick just by being near him.

    Mistake..it's Fitz Dawg not Fitzdog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    I remember Buster, and yeah, I have seen the balloon thing.. that I don't get ! But, if it makes people happy...lol. There was a guy here in Toronto, that I kind of knew from the clubs that got into porn, he went by the name of Ted Baer, did a video with Ray Stone for Bear Films. He disappeared after that, which I found odd because he was always out and about. Later found out he had moved out of the city and kept a very low profile. He showed up some time later doing bareback videos, and was gone again. No one I know has heard or seen him since. Porn is hard to live down for some I'm guessing. Ray Harley was also from here, he would strut around the streets making sure everyone knew what he did on the side ! Short, arrogant little bastard he was ! Last I heard he lives in England and is twice his size.
    Believe it or not the balloon fetish is more popular than people think and does have a huge following. There was a program on here in the UK a few years back and if I didn't see some of the stuff on the list, I would have thought someone was taking the piss but if that's what floats their boat then whatever.

    I know what you mean about the porn thing as well. Quite a few of the more famous male performers these days started off doing stuff for gay sites whether it was solo or with others yet deny it now even when someone shows them a clip of them bent over and thinking of England. It's the same with a few musicians doing it then when they start making a name for themselves they pay to get everything removed but like you say, to each their own.

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    I have that one and Bear Naked that he made around 2001. I do have an update on him, a friend of a friend says he still has his day job at Pearson International Airport and lives in the area, makes sense it's a hell of a place to get in and out of ! LOL. Seems he's been in a long term relationship and stays away from the scene. Good to know he's alright. Yeah, I know what you mean about cigars I've been around the hardcore smokers of them and it is enough to make you sick.
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    Forgot to mention his name- Xander Scott (real name Michael Cohen): http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/g...ld/#gs.RNVWXtw

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    What with all his troubles, I'm guessing it could have been intentional. Sad all the same. In reading about him another name came up, Mike Dozer who was very popular is going to prison for raping an underage boy. http://www.towleroad.com/2016/03/mike-dozer/
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ad-age-31.htmlAnother sad one to add- Amber Rayne who accused James Deen of rape. Dead of an overdose, apparently she was a cancer survivor too.

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    Amber Rayne who accused James Deen of rape found dead at 31


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    That girl is not cute. She is way too thin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyinlove View Post
    That girl is not cute. She is way too thin.
    That's the one thing I hated about porn in the 90s/early 00s. Nearly every girl was like a rake and every rib was showing and the fake boobs just made them look ridiculous especially the likes of Jesse Jane and others. At least now, there are are regular and natural sized girls coming into the business but whether they will stay like that is anyone's guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shellc View Post
    That's the one thing I hated about porn in the 90s/early 00s. Nearly every girl was like a rake and every rib was showing and the fake boobs just made them look ridiculous especially the likes of Jesse Jane and others. At least now, there are are regular and natural sized girls coming into the business but whether they will stay like that is anyone's guess.
    I agree with you, I don't see how anybody could be turned on by someone like Jesse Jane or the like. At least the girls in the 70's and 80's looked like real woman, as for the new girls I'm sure they will be under the same pressure to loose weight and look as fake as possible. Two of my faves from back in the day Veronica Hart and Annette Haven prove you can look fab at any age.
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    So sad that too many die young. I've watched porn a couple of times but if I ever had to do it for a living, I would probably O.D. my first day on the job. I'd need so many fucking drugs in my system to have sex with one of those people that I'd never want to go back to life. I don't judge them, everyone of them has their own reasons for getting into it. I just wish it was, more often than not, something they wanted to do.
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    Frankly in this day and age with amature porn I am surprised that anyone would really think that they could make a living in that business. The days of becoming the next Ron Jeremy is as dead as John Lennon !! Even having a big dick or big tits really mean nothing since no matter how big you think you got..there is always someone out there whose is bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by choff View Post
    Frankly in this day and age with amature porn I am surprised that anyone would really think that they could make a living in that business. The days of becoming the next Ron Jeremy is as dead as John Lennon !! Even having a big dick or big tits really mean nothing since no matter how big you think you got..there is always someone out there whose is bigger.
    I saw a documentary about these guys who find young women who seem willing. They take them to Florida or wherever, get them in touch with the film makers, and then they make as many films as possible for about three or four months - maybe six tops, and then find new girls. During that short time, most of the girls begin using drugs and never save a dime because they think they're going to be stars. Then they return home with bad drug habits, no self esteem, no money and of course they don't think they're worth anything because at the ripe old age of 19, they've been used up and done so many degrading things that they feel worthless. Unfortunately, what got them involved in the business in the first place means they started out with a strike or two against them going in. As you know, most of them end up dying way too young. Personally, I don't judge them because life can be a bitch. I do judge the brokers and the film makers though. They're vampires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    I saw a documentary about these guys who find young women who seem willing. They take them to Florida or wherever, get them in touch with the film makers, and then they make as many films as possible for about three or four months - maybe six tops, and then find new girls. During that short time, most of the girls begin using drugs and never save a dime because they think they're going to be stars. Then they return home with bad drug habits, no self esteem, no money and of course they don't think they're worth anything because at the ripe old age of 19, they've been used up and done so many degrading things that they feel worthless. Unfortunately, what got them involved in the business in the first place means they started out with a strike or two against them going in. As you know, most of them end up dying way too young. Personally, I don't judge them because life can be a bitch. I do judge the brokers and the film makers though. They're vampires.
    There was a program kind of like that over here in the UK but it was from the prospective of the fan. They got three guys who watched porn 24/7 and were addicted to it. They told them they were gonna take them to LA to show them what's really involved in making porn and if they wanted to, they could try their luck in a scene. As they set off they were excited about what they were gonna see and do. I think they assumed they were gonna go to one of the big studios like Vivid or New Sensation where the girls are treated well but it was more amateur stuff in seedy rooms and hotels and it wasn't pretty.

    They saw exactly what happened behind the scenes with the way the girls and guys were being treated with some doing three or four scenes a day and rather than wanting to do it like they thought, many were in the business because they had no other option or they had been tricked into it by fancy talking. Obviously there were some who said they were doing it willingly but most of them seemed like they were dead behind the eyes yet all those around them seemed to care about was getting the scene shot so another could start filming.

    It was pretty clear they were showing them that it wasn't this glamorous adventure they expected it to be and some scenes actually gave you the shudders. You knew it wasn't gonna be puppies and rainbows but to actually see it like that was something else. The bit that really got me was when they actually talked to the people doing it and it was only then that they started to realise it could just as easily be one of their family or friends in that position.

    Needless to say, by the time the show was finished, their and my eyes had been opened. They were split between stopping watching all together and toning down how much they watch but for me, I suddenly started to understand why there are so many dead porn stars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCourt View Post
    I saw a documentary about these guys who find young women who seem willing. They take them to Florida or wherever, get them in touch with the film makers, and then they make as many films as possible for about three or four months - maybe six tops, and then find new girls. During that short time, most of the girls begin using drugs and never save a dime because they think they're going to be stars. Then they return home with bad drug habits, no self esteem, no money and of course they don't think they're worth anything because at the ripe old age of 19, they've been used up and done so many degrading things that they feel worthless. Unfortunately, what got them involved in the business in the first place means they started out with a strike or two against them going in. As you know, most of them end up dying way too young. Personally, I don't judge them because life can be a bitch. I do judge the brokers and the film makers though. They're vampires.

    More like greedy vampires. If the drugs doesn't get to them then legal issues down the road could. This morning a buddy of mine on Facebook had sent me a story about a young gay man he knows who lives in Columbus, Ohio. Ten years ago he and his then partner while vacationing in Florida were asked if they would be willing to do a porn. They figured..well why not ?? No they didn't get into drugs or anything like that actually they said that the shoot was actually fun to do and they were paid well ( somewhere around 1000 bucks for that one scene ). At the time of the shoot they were told by the director that the still publicity pics they had done they could post them online. They did. OK that was ten years ago. The couple has since broke up and he had just married his new man. Well he had started a new job in Columbus ( retail management ) only to notice that his paycheck was now being garnished. He had no idea why since he never had any money issues before. Turns out his check ( and his ex's check ) was being garnished thanks to a porn company one they had never heard of who several years ago ( 2011 ) had received a default judgement against them due to a copyright violation. The director who made the movie sold the rights to another porn company and of course he didn't tell the actors about it. The new owners went online and went to the various websites including Facebook where guys would post pics of themselves and found that he and his ex still had the publicity photos from that movie online and since they didn't get the ok from the new owners ( how would they had known ?? )..well there ya go. He claims he was never served ( hardly a shocker ) and his ex knew about the lawsuit but thought it was some kind of a prank ( that isn't much of a shocker either )...anyway the two guys are now dealing with a judgement of about 15K EACH all because they had thought it would had been so cool to do a porno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shellc View Post
    There was a program kind of like that over here in the UK but it was from the prospective of the fan. They got three guys who watched porn 24/7 and were addicted to it. They told them they were gonna take them to LA to show them what's really involved in making porn and if they wanted to, they could try their luck in a scene. As they set off they were excited about what they were gonna see and do. I think they assumed they were gonna go to one of the big studios like Vivid or New Sensation where the girls are treated well but it was more amateur stuff in seedy rooms and hotels and it wasn't pretty.

    They saw exactly what happened behind the scenes with the way the girls and guys were being treated with some doing three or four scenes a day and rather than wanting to do it like they thought, many were in the business because they had no other option or they had been tricked into it by fancy talking. Obviously there were some who said they were doing it willingly but most of them seemed like they were dead behind the eyes yet all those around them seemed to care about was getting the scene shot so another could start filming.

    It was pretty clear they were showing them that it wasn't this glamorous adventure they expected it to be and some scenes actually gave you the shudders. You knew it wasn't gonna be puppies and rainbows but to actually see it like that was something else. The bit that really got me was when they actually talked to the people doing it and it was only then that they started to realise it could just as easily be one of their family or friends in that position.

    Needless to say, by the time the show was finished, their and my eyes had been opened. They were split between stopping watching all together and toning down how much they watch but for me, I suddenly started to understand why there are so many dead porn stars.

    Great post!!! The hardest thing for me is that each and every one of those girls is someone's daughter. For a mom, its hard enough and I couldn't possibly imagine my daughter (who is 21) involved in this, but I think it might even be more difficult for the fathers of these little girls. They must go back and forth between being devastatingly sad and wanting to kill every mofo who puts his hands on her. I don't want to try and place blame, but I think the fact that so many of these girls might have "daddy issues" isn't a coincidence.
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    Yes that is true but I don't know if this is the main reason. I saw some interviews of girls from fapshows.com and livejasmin.com and 70% of them said that the only reason that made them join this career is money. For college, for living or for any other thing but money was the primary factor.

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    wow, amber rayne. i'd like to know her story in full...

    "Originally from Detroit, Amber headed to Los Angeles with a touring musical production with a BA in Theater Arts and a Minor in Art History from California State University-Los Angeles.
    She started in the adult industry when she was in her early twenties, with her first production in 2005."

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    In reading about him another name came up, Mike Dozer who was very popular is going to prison for raping an underage boy. http://www.towleroad.com/2016/03/mike-dozer/

    One less predator on the streets; Mike's going to be locked-up for quite a while: http://www.pottsmerc.com/article/MP/...NEWS/160429933

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    The story about Dozer unfortunately reminds me of Craig Byrnes. While not a porn star himself he is the guy who did designed the gay bear flag which can be seen in many bear porn flicks.

    http://ncourageu.org/bios/craigbyrnes.html

    unfortunately this is what happened to Byrnes...

    https://www.fbi.gov/washingtondc/pre...wfo021011b.htm

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    I think the saddest is Savannah. I do have a question - her E!THS there was a man who was a witness and said before she died, she put the gun between her legs indicating to me, that she was going to shoot up inside her .... But now on FID it says she didn't die right away because the placement of the gun on her temple. I'm assuming she shot herself in the head and her arm fell down between her legs & that is how she was found. ????
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    "She was in the top ten per cent of her class in high school."..... That really means NOTHING, first, how smart was it for her to be a cokehead? and in a car driven by some coked out rich boy?, and especially not if she attended some podunk shitkicker HS where half the class are related/inbred cousins, I'm sure a monkey could also seem as intelligent as Einstein in that situation! lol

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    I've read that Anna Malle was in the passenger seat when the vehicle she was riding in was struck by a utility truck right into the passenger side door.. I remember some of her work very well, she really wasn't pretty at all and was flat chested but, she did was good at what she did and was in some awesome girl/girl (F/F) and girl/girl/guy (F/F/M) scenes with German porn star Sylvia Saint, who really was a gorgeous goddess before getting way too many plastic surgeries and becoming a botox bandito. Sylvia was so much hotter BEFORE buying the fake boobs, which is always a huge turn off in MY book!

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    Very sad, poor woman was born to a whore mom who sent her off, that is just so typical!

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    Whats wrong with her you ask?
    Well, lets see, there's the obvious addiction to terrible plastic/cosmetic surgeries that are only ruining her natural born beauty (she was so gorgeous in "The Masseuse") and making her look 20 years older!
    She's had way too many surgeries which ALWAYS leads to the addiction of pain killers/oxy, and with how much thinner she has become, she clearly suffers from a severe case of anorexia or bulimia, look at her now, you can practically see the blood flow thru the vains in her arms and neck! LOL
    She's so thin and sickly looking, which all stems from mental illness, which is probably why she married that womanizing wife beating teeny weenie from 'roid abuse sissy loser Taco Ortiz who really WAS nothing but a tomato can in MMA. (nice to see she finally wised up and kicked him to the curb!).
    I saw her recently in an interview where she was spewing the typical B.S. about how "artistic" her early films were (there was NOTHING artistic about them, they were vanilla/boring sex scenes shot in cheap low budget fare based around a bad script, terrible acting and poor directing and lighting and crappy editing with the typically horrid porn music that sounds like an old Colecovision game on meth! lol
    She looked worse than ever and talks down at the interviewer and camera when answering anything just like snobby phony stuck up chicks do, like she's so much better and smarter than everyone else.
    Wonder if sh is HIV+ yet?

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    Read somewhere a while ago that he had some money trouble (who doesn't? lol). I could be wrong and thinking of a different male actor who off'ed himself here but, wasn't Dough HIV+? I'm sure that if he was that it probably helped lead him to his decision.

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    A low self esteemed drug addicted whore IS the last person on Earth who should even ever have children, let alone a bitchy selfish one who obviously didn't give two shits for her kids if she was really popping 10 vicadins/valums at a time and washing them down with alcohol!!
    Anyone else would have had her kids taken away, but, once again the rich celebs get away with whatever!
    She is another one who really was so pretty before she got carried away with too many cosmetic surgeries. I just feel sorry for her kids, without any mentally stable living parents to raise them there's not much hope of them growing up right!
    I speak from much experience from many years of counseling children who've lost their parents or their only parent, maybe 1 out of every 100 turn out OK, or less effed up enough to get an education, a job and survive, most turn into low life criminals, junkies, prostitutes, thieves and flat out degenerates who all perish young, no matter how hard you try to steer 'em right.

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    Update: She briefly returned to do a couple movies a year or two back, albeit just for the $, than soon relapsed back onto the drugs once again and was in trouble with the law due to it. I believe she has entered rehab (which NEVER really works) recently!

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    I think that most who swing do NOT have a childishly immature jealous side, which IS why they are swingers! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrBong View Post
    "She was in the top ten per cent of her class in high school."..... That really means NOTHING, first, how smart was it for her to be a cokehead? and in a car driven by some coked out rich boy?, and especially not if she attended some podunk shitkicker HS where half the class are related/inbred cousins, I'm sure a monkey could also seem as intelligent as Einstein in that situation! lol
    Quote Originally Posted by DrBong View Post
    I've read that Anna Malle was in the passenger seat when the vehicle she was riding in was struck by a utility truck right into the passenger side door.. I remember some of her work very well, she really wasn't pretty at all and was flat chested but, she did was good at what she did and was in some awesome girl/girl (F/F) and girl/girl/guy (F/F/M) scenes with German porn star Sylvia Saint, who really was a gorgeous goddess before getting way too many plastic surgeries and becoming a botox bandito. Sylvia was so much hotter BEFORE buying the fake boobs, which is always a huge turn off in MY book!
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    Very sad, poor woman was born to a whore mom who sent her off, that is just so typical!
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    Whats wrong with her you ask?
    Well, lets see, there's the obvious addiction to terrible plastic/cosmetic surgeries that are only ruining her natural born beauty (she was so gorgeous in "The Masseuse") and making her look 20 years older!
    She's had way too many surgeries which ALWAYS leads to the addiction of pain killers/oxy, and with how much thinner she has become, she clearly suffers from a severe case of anorexia or bulimia, look at her now, you can practically see the blood flow thru the vains in her arms and neck! LOL
    She's so thin and sickly looking, which all stems from mental illness, which is probably why she married that womanizing wife beating teeny weenie from 'roid abuse sissy loser Taco Ortiz who really WAS nothing but a tomato can in MMA. (nice to see she finally wised up and kicked him to the curb!).
    I saw her recently in an interview where she was spewing the typical B.S. about how "artistic" her early films were (there was NOTHING artistic about them, they were vanilla/boring sex scenes shot in cheap low budget fare based around a bad script, terrible acting and poor directing and lighting and crappy editing with the typically horrid porn music that sounds like an old Colecovision game on meth! lol
    She looked worse than ever and talks down at the interviewer and camera when answering anything just like snobby phony stuck up chicks do, like she's so much better and smarter than everyone else.
    Wonder if sh is HIV+ yet?
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    Read somewhere a while ago that he had some money trouble (who doesn't? lol). I could be wrong and thinking of a different male actor who off'ed himself here but, wasn't Dough HIV+? I'm sure that if he was that it probably helped lead him to his decision.
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    A low self esteemed drug addicted whore IS the last person on Earth who should even ever have children, let alone a bitchy selfish one who obviously didn't give two shits for her kids if she was really popping 10 vicadins/valums at a time and washing them down with alcohol!!
    Anyone else would have had her kids taken away, but, once again the rich celebs get away with whatever!
    She is another one who really was so pretty before she got carried away with too many cosmetic surgeries. I just feel sorry for her kids, without any mentally stable living parents to raise them there's not much hope of them growing up right!
    I speak from much experience from many years of counseling children who've lost their parents or their only parent, maybe 1 out of every 100 turn out OK, or less effed up enough to get an education, a job and survive, most turn into low life criminals, junkies, prostitutes, thieves and flat out degenerates who all perish young, no matter how hard you try to steer 'em right.
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    Amber Rayne cause of death: accidental cocaine overdose

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-a7102581.html

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    such a short life span these porn stars... just like wrestlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrBong View Post
    Whats wrong with her you ask?
    Well, lets see, there's the obvious addiction to terrible plastic/cosmetic surgeries that are only ruining her natural born beauty (she was so gorgeous in "The Masseuse") and making her look 20 years older!
    She's had way too many surgeries which ALWAYS leads to the addiction of pain killers/oxy, and with how much thinner she has become, she clearly suffers from a severe case of anorexia or bulimia, look at her now, you can practically see the blood flow thru the vains in her arms and neck! LOL
    She's so thin and sickly looking, which all stems from mental illness, which is probably why she married that womanizing wife beating teeny weenie from 'roid abuse sissy loser Taco Ortiz who really WAS nothing but a tomato can in MMA. (nice to see she finally wised up and kicked him to the curb!).
    I saw her recently in an interview where she was spewing the typical B.S. about how "artistic" her early films were (there was NOTHING artistic about them, they were vanilla/boring sex scenes shot in cheap low budget fare based around a bad script, terrible acting and poor directing and lighting and crappy editing with the typically horrid porn music that sounds like an old Colecovision game on meth! lol
    She looked worse than ever and talks down at the interviewer and camera when answering anything just like snobby phony stuck up chicks do, like she's so much better and smarter than everyone else.
    Wonder if sh is HIV+ yet?
    The E story about her was good. If I remember right, she did say she suffered from Anorexia when she was younger and said a lot of things happened because of her mum dying when she was little as well as being hooked on Heroin and being attacked. She started dating older guysbecause she didn't have much of a relationship with her dad and that's how she ended up in the business. On the whole though, she was clear that nobody made her do it and it was her own choice and did sound like she had the right grip on things.

    Now though, I agree about her looking ill. Her chest was too big but she was one of the better looking girls from that era but she has had too much done to her now. The pain killers do seem to be part of the problem but when I used to read her twitter(this was a while ago), she refused to take any blame for anything and blamed it all on Tito and the others, including when they threatened to take the twins from her because she was skanked most of the time. From what those in the know said yes it was her that was hitting him and he was defending himself but that could just be people taking sides so who knows?

    Since then though she has been done for DUI and did many interviews obviously out of her face.

    She lost all her money she earned from selling the company and had to go back to selling adult toys etc and was talking about starting to do scenes again but not many people were interested because as they say, her time has passed and there are many more natural girls out there now who can act and have sex at the same time, something many couldn't before.

    It's a shame because a few years ago she was known as Jenna Jameson, one of the biggest names ever in porn and a true star and now she's being talked about as nothing but a has been who needs to go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shellc View Post
    The E story about her was good. If I remember right, she did say she suffered from Anorexia when she was younger and said a lot of things happened because of her mum dying when she was little as well as being hooked on Heroin and being attacked. She started dating older guysbecause she didn't have much of a relationship with her dad and that's how she ended up in the business. On the whole though, she was clear that nobody made her do it and it was her own choice and did sound like she had the right grip on things.

    Now though, I agree about her looking ill. Her chest was too big but she was one of the better looking girls from that era but she has had too much done to her now. The pain killers do seem to be part of the problem but when I used to read her twitter(this was a while ago), she refused to take any blame for anything and blamed it all on Tito and the others, including when they threatened to take the twins from her because she was skanked most of the time. From what those in the know said yes it was her that was hitting him and he was defending himself but that could just be people taking sides so who knows?

    Since then though she has been done for DUI and did many interviews obviously out of her face.

    She lost all her money she earned from selling the company and had to go back to selling adult toys etc and was talking about starting to do scenes again but not many people were interested because as they say, her time has passed and there are many more natural girls out there now who can act and have sex at the same time, something many couldn't before.

    It's a shame because a few years ago she was known as Jenna Jameson, one of the biggest names ever in porn and a true star and now she's being talked about as nothing but a has been who needs to go away.

    I heard she hasn't been in the industry because she had a procedure done "Down stairs" that went horribly and it's painful for her to perform sexually anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDude View Post
    I heard she hasn't been in the industry because she had a procedure done "Down stairs" that went horribly and it's painful for her to perform sexually anymore.
    I haven't checked up on her in years. The last I heard she was mostly doing appearances and web cam stuff and selling toys with her name on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shellc View Post
    They saw exactly what happened behind the scenes with the way the girls and guys were being treated with some doing three or four scenes a day and rather than wanting to do it like they thought, many were in the business because they had no other option or they had been tricked into it by fancy talking. Obviously there were some who said they were doing it willingly but most of them seemed like they were dead behind the eyes yet all those around them seemed to care about was getting the scene shot so another could start filming.

    It was pretty clear they were showing them that it wasn't this glamorous adventure they expected it to be and some scenes actually gave you the shudders. You knew it wasn't gonna be puppies and rainbows but to actually see it like that was something else. The bit that really got me was when they actually talked to the people doing it and it was only then that they started to realise it could just as easily be one of their family or friends in that position.

    Needless to say, by the time the show was finished, their and my eyes had been opened. They were split between stopping watching all together and toning down how much they watch but for me, I suddenly started to understand why there are so many dead porn stars.
    I have no doubt this is accurate and I know there is a really seedy side of the business but let me share a moment I experienced that was quite different. As some may know, I was a professional photographer before I switched gears 13 years ago. Being in that business I met many people and one of them was a a guy who owned a porn production company. One day I get a call from him telling me that his guy that shoots the stills (they use a still photographer for the cover and shots on the back of the DVD case) couldn't make it last minute and asked if I would be comfortable enough to fill in. Of course being a horny 29 year old I jumped at the chance.

    It was shot at an upscale home in La Jolla and involved two scenes. A girl solo and a girl/girl. There was one videographer, a director and makeup person. It was clean, smelled nice (incense) and relaxed. What also surprised me is how the girls talked with each other before the shoot began. They talked about what each liked and didn't like etc...

    It was the opposite of what I expected and gave me a new appreciation because I realized some pornographers actually cared about the girls and cared about the integrity of the production. I'd like to think there are still shoots like this today but I would concede more times they are as you described.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulination View Post
    I have no doubt this is accurate and I know there is a really seedy side of the business but let me share a moment I experienced that was quite different. As some may know, I was a professional photographer before I switched gears 13 years ago. Being in that business I met many people and one of them was a a guy who owned a porn production company. One day I get a call from him telling me that his guy that shoots the stills (they use a still photographer for the cover and shots on the back of the DVD case) couldn't make it last minute and asked if I would be comfortable enough to fill in. Of course being a horny 29 year old I jumped at the chance.

    It was shot at an upscale home in La Jolla and involved two scenes. A girl solo and a girl/girl. There was one videographer, a director and makeup person. It was clean, smelled nice (incense) and relaxed. What also surprised me is how the girls talked with each other before the shoot began. They talked about what each liked and didn't like etc...

    It was the opposite of what I expected and gave me a new appreciation because I realized some pornographers actually cared about the girls and cared about the integrity of the production. I'd like to think there are still shoots like this today but I would concede more times they are as you described.
    It's all about time and money now like most things. Like you say, there are still some places who put the guys/girls comforts first but it seems more rare now as it seems most stuff is filmed for company sites or girls/guys personal ones, they want as much filmed in a day as possible so they can do what needs to be done and get it put online and if that means putting them on a set with someone they only have time to say hello to before it starts then so be it and they just have to figure things out as they film and if it's uncomfortable for either of them then so what.

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    Another name to add to the list of 2016 porn casualties:

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/g...33/#gs.3I5zzks

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    Donna Warner, a British-born performer active in US adult films in the late 90s, died in January aged 44.

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    Girls with firm young bodies being told they'll make between $2000 and $5000 per day. They're immature, think they know more than everyone else, get lured into an "audition tape", now have little to lose and gamble on fame. Whether it's drug or "I've already done (such and such), what could be worse?" They lose their parent's respect, their friends from youth, get chucked by porn producers who find a fresh victim, and wind up working for lousy money to support a habit or keep them in a cheap motel room. Next to impossible to find a decent guy with a family who can overlook her past.
    The porn industry devours young girls and spits them to the curb.

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    This guy was in gay porn for almost three years; just died of heart disease and they can't afford to cremate him. AND he left behind a wife and two kids. I just checked their GofundMe and at least they reached their goal.

    https://www.gaypopbuzz.com/tyler-sky-died/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave62 View Post
    This guy was in gay porn for almost three years; just died of heart disease and they can't afford to cremate him. AND he left behind a wife and two kids. I just checked their GofundMe and at least they reached their goal.

    https://www.gaypopbuzz.com/tyler-sky-died/
    A lot of guys are doing gay for pay now because it's seemingly better money than straight stuff for guys. I watched a documentary about it online a few months ago where some guys were interviewed. They admitted they were doing it for the money but when the interviewer questioned that they might not be fully straight, they weren't happy. Worse still, a couple admitted doing bareback scenes although they had girlfriends and their reason was it's a job and like with some jobs, you have to do some stuff you don't like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shellc View Post
    A lot of guys are doing gay for pay now because it's seemingly better money than straight stuff for guys. I watched a documentary about it online a few months ago where some guys were interviewed. They admitted they were doing it for the money but when the interviewer questioned that they might not be fully straight, they weren't happy. Worse still, a couple admitted doing bareback scenes although they had girlfriends and their reason was it's a job and like with some jobs, you have to do some stuff you don't like.
    Damn.
    I also do things in the course of my job that I don't especially like to do.
    If they ever tell me to beat up an old lady for not paying her bill on time I think I gonna have to pass.
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    I've seen a few of the alleged gay for pay actors in films. I don't buy this "I'm totally straight and doing it for the money" bullshit. They all looked pretty "into" in what they were doing. For some reason it's a fantasy for gay men to think they are seeing straight guys, if they are doing gay porn then they are hardly straight IMO !
    To really know people is to be able to read between the lines on their faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    I've seen a few of the alleged gay for pay actors in films. I don't buy this "I'm totally straight and doing it for the money" bullshit. They all looked pretty "into" in what they were doing. For some reason it's a fantasy for gay men to think they are seeing straight guys, if they are doing gay porn then they are hardly straight IMO !

    That is why I watch Paul Morris films - raw, real time action with "regular" guys. Kristen Bjorn made some hot ones too like Carnival in Rio. I say if they have to finish themselves off, I can't be bothered to watch.

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