Just another sign of the decline of our children's morality..... we are declining in general I guess
Buffalo NY.Time was, when a girl had a crush on a boy, she sent him a note in class. Today, as at least one local school district has learned, she might use her cell phone to take a naked picture of herself and send the photo to him. The Pioneer Central School District over the past two months has discovered three cases of teenage girls — ages 13 to 16 — electronically sending nude photos to male classmates.
“All of the situations we’re dealing with, the images are of a girl in a provocative and seductive position, and in the nude,” Pioneer Superintendent Jeffrey Bowen told The Buffalo News.
The photos came to light when school officials confiscated students’ cell phones for other disciplinary reasons.
Four middle and high school students were suspended in the incidents, but for reasons not explicitly connected to the transmission of the photos, Bowen said.
The students who received or redistributed the photos are not facing criminal charges because of their youth, said Mark Schultz, principal of Pioneer High School.
Experts say this is part of a growing trend of young people using the latest technology to capture an intimate moment or illegal activity and then transmitting it to a friend or, often, the wider world.
“What’s happening in Pioneer is mirroring what’s happening not only here but nationally,” said Patti McLain, community educator with the Buffalo office of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
The Pioneer district, which covers parts of Cattaraugus, Wyoming, Erie and Allegany counties, started confronting these explicit photos this spring.
The first case, from March or early April, involved a middle school student who was off school grounds when she sent a naked photo of herself to a male classmate who was serving a session of detention, Bowen said.
A teacher who was supervising the male student took away his cell phone because Pioneer pupils aren’t allowed to use their phones while in school.
After confiscating the phone, a school official found the naked photo.
The boy who received the photo was briefly suspended, but for his improper use of a phone during school and not for receiving the photo, the superintendent said.
The other two cases involved high school students.
In one, a pair of students staying after school to watch a sporting event got into a fight on the grounds of the high school.
A coach who heard the noise stepped in, stopped the altercation and confiscated the cell phone of another student who was using its video-camera function to record the fight, Schultz said.
While looking through the phone, school officials found a naked photo of a female high school student, the principal said.
The student who had the image on his phone was suspended for using the phone on school grounds to record the fight, Schultz said.
In the third and most recent case, a female high school student at some point sent a naked photo of herself as a text message to her boyfriend, a fellow high school student.
“That picture then was forwarded somehow from that phone to another phone and was distributed from there,” Schultz said.
Somehow, the picture led to tensions between the original photo taker and another female student, leading them to fight each other sometime in late April or early this month, Bowen and Schultz said.
The female students were disciplined for the fight, Schultz said.
In each case, officials worked to identify the students depicted in the photos — a total of three teens ranging in age from 13 or 14 to 16 — and contacted their parents.
The teens initially didn’t realize the consequences of what they were doing, Bowen said, but now they do and they are upset.
The school is limited in what it can do to punish the teens who received and distributed the photos, Schultz and Bowen said.
School officials would have to prove that the transmission or distribution of the images occurred on school grounds, the principal said.
School resource officers from the Cattaraugus County Sheriff’s Office assisted in the investigation into the images, Schultz said.
Deputies told school officials that the students could not be held criminally liable for possession of what is essentially child pornography because of their own youth, he said.
In response to these cases, homeroom teachers last week read a statement to high school students reminding them of the consequences of this behavior.
The statement from Schultz also is posted on the Pioneer district’s Web site.
This situation isn’t unique to Pioneer.
In the Syracuse area, a number of female students from the Cicero-North Syracuse district took cell phone photos of themselves nude and sent them by text message to their boyfriends.
The photos, which wound up on the Web, came to light when one student was caught selling copies of a DVD of the images that he had created, according to the Syracuse Post- Standard.
Most famously, a naked photo of “High School Musical” star Vanessa Hudgens intended for her boyfriend made its way onto the Internet and into the public domain last fall.
“There’s definitely an oversexualization of our youth. They are much more willing to put themselves out there in a sexual way,” said McLain, the local official with the center for missing and exploited children.
Parents and school districts need to be proactive in reminding young people that a digital image can be a permanent and widely shared reminder of what was intended to be a private moment, said Jayne Hitchcock, president of WHOA-KTD, or Working to Halt Online Abuse — Kids-Teen Division, a volunteer group devoted to online safety.
“When you voluntarily give somebody a photo of yourself, a video of yourself, . . . they can and probably will use it against you,” she said. “That’s the nature of the Internet now.”
Just another sign of the decline of our children's morality..... we are declining in general I guess
And everyone wonders why I'm so leery about my 13 year old stepdaughter having a cell phone.
WTF is wrong with girls today? Have they no dignity? Obviously not. Where the hell are their parents?!
I think kids are just maturing much faster these days. I remember in 6th and 7th grade, only about 2 or 3 girls even had boobs. Now days I see girls coming into the tattooshop to get piercings that look like they are legal and find out they are 14. They come back with their mom and get the picercing. I used know girl that got a boob job for a graduation present. She was 18. The parents do have alot of the blame, but the media is also to blame. The way they market to the teen girls is sickining. They look up to whore's like Lohan and think thats the norm. In the 80's we didnt have The E channel or Perezhilton.com. Hell, I grew up in the country. I had 5 channels on my TV. The moral's of this country are going to shit. Its just going to get worse.
I had no fun in the stoneage!
All I could get in trouble for was chewing gum or the big one:
Running with scissors
I too grew up in the country, and after the giant satellite dish was hit by the lawnmower, we had 3 channels. Wheee. You would actually go play in the dirt if you got bored. Or walk through the woods. Run around with the dog. Or, if you were like me, you'd sit in a bean bag and read or listen to music.
The media totally targets young girls. Everything is hyper-sexual. Since when did the Lindsey Lohans and Paris Hiltons and Britneys become role models? The only woman I remember from my childhood as being a sex symbol was Lita Ford (this because I just sat around and read and listened to music. Yes, I was a nerd.) Even though she did that video with her licking the ice cube, Lita Ford at least owned it. She had some modicum of talent and didn't come across as easy. She came across as the chick who would kick your ass. Now, girls as praised the sluttier they look.
Boobs at 18, for graduation? What the hell surgeon would do that? They're not even done growing yet?
I've noticed as well that girls are maturing much faster. Where I work, we see a lot of teen pregnancies - and a few pre-teen pregnancies. We've had a couple of eleven and twelve year olds have babies. ELEVEN AND TWELVE. Thirteen and fourteen is becoming far more common, 15 and 16 is not at all rare. We've even had a couple of 15/16 year olds on their second kid! When I was 11 or 12, boys were 'cute' but they were still 'gross'. They were nice to look at but you didn't want to get anywhere near them.
Do you think maybe it has something to do with the hormones that are being put into livestock and poultry? Or is that a little too Orwellian?
A couple years ago I got a few baby chickens from a feed store. I had six of them after a couple weeks they started getting a bigger but a dog killed a couple of them. So I called my cousin who works for foster farms. He brought me 3 baby chick from his work. Within 6 weeks those foster farms birds looked full grown while the older chickens I had bought looked juvenile. They have to be doing something to those birds.
That's weird! I know on some food labels it will say 'blah blah hormone free' so you know the industry is probably cramming cows, chickens, pigs, etc full of hormones. It makes sense - if they mature faster, they can be turned into food faster, and you can produce more. (Ok, I'm starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.) We try to eat only fish and chicken and buy organic, but it is difficult here in the sticks. There aren't many places to get it and it's expensive. My bf says I have ruined him as a Texan with no red meat in the house, but we both definitely feel better after having been chemical free or mostly chemical free for the past several months.
We have several Tyson poultry plants around here and let tell you, there is some nasty stuff that goes on at those places. Don't buy Tyson. Ew.
Oy sorry for hijacking the thread there. Back to ho bag teenage girls!
I can no longer go to the mall because it just makes me cringe. There's so many kids running around half dressed acting like asses!
Last edited by Nessa; 05-22-2008 at 02:35 AM.
This is like those dumb-ass Florida girls who taped themselves beating up their classmate. And then laughing about it in jail and wondering if they'd still be able to make it to the beach during Spring Break. I saw one of the girls' myspace page (the one whose grandmother's house it took place at--name of Mercades--duh her mom doesn't even know how to spell it) and she had all these pics of her boyfriend on there with very sexually explicit captions. In their mugshots they all looked like white-trash thugs. Check tru TV in about 10 years and they'll all be on various episodes of COPS, barefoot in stained tank tops and frizzed out perms, and with black eyes from their babydaddies.
I'm waiting to hear what the outcome will be of them being charged as adults.
Kids nowadays are so much more sophisticated, and not in a good way. They know way too much too early and have absolutely no self-respect.
Rant rant rant.
Too many parents want to be their kids friends, instead of parents. Big ass mistake. Discipline should come from the home, not society. When my boys screwed up they were more worried about what I would do than what the cops might do. They have thanked me as they got older and had their own kids.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light......Dylan Thomas
We would have done the same thing at that age if we had phones and the internet. It's sad but the more technology advances in a way society deteriorates.
Well theres a big shocker. Not our well behaved, smart youth of today doing something like that?? surely it must be a different group of people doing this.. not our own kids.. I just dont believe it. Must be drugs.
I feel like people my age and older were the last generation to actually have hobbies.
yeah I agree Nessa. I went fishing and bowling ,summer camp. I respected my parents and understood that no meant no and new better than to talk back to Pa.
We only had one tv. Off by 10p everynight. Life was so simple than.
This generation of kids is so violent.
LOL...lemme tell ya a lil about my 13 year old stepdaughter. Last night I had to do my rounds and hijack her myspace to delete yet some more booby shots. This time they actually had some crude comments from her male friends. This a regular thing that I have to do because apparently neither her father or mother will do a damn thing to regulate it. We've set up a lot of bounderies around here, but her mom lets her watch whatever is on the damn cable. I walked into her mom's house one day when I went to pick her up, and she was watching Rock of Love (is that what it's called with Brett Micheals??? I'm not sure, I don't watch that crap) with these hoochie girls all over this guy. And my hubby wonders why she's texting 16 year old boys propositioning them with the thought of being 'friends with benefits.' As soon as she started developing, she started wearing push up bras to accentuate everything, and plunging necklines. I can't believe her mom buys her this crap. It's certainly not us. My MIL was going out with my SD, and told her "Cover up your titties because I'm not going to be seen with you like that." Rock on, grandma.
BTW, we had to deal with a lot of crap when she was even younger because her mom let her watch R rated movies, and here we wouldn't allow it. Unfortunately I do not see this child doing well at all, not because I'm her stepmom and want to be mean, but because her mom and my hubby aren't on the same page, and her mom just dismisses any kind of morality or discipline we try to instill. She flat out told my SD that disciplining is bad!!! WTF??? Anyway, so this is so long, but this isn't even the tip of the iceberg with her. And from some of the stuff I've heard about her mom, I'm surprised my hubby even married her in the first place, much less had a child by her. I guess we've all been young and stupid.
OK, off my soapbox.
I seriously think girls these days over being sexualized way too young.
When I was younger I worked for one of those big-box stores. There was a good mixture of people ranging from teens to people in their mid 30s. One of the co-workers had a party (this guy in his mid to late 30s) and invited most of the hip people at the store. Among the attendees was this ditzy 17 year old Tori Spelling look-alike and a few of her highschool friends. Late in the night after the lamos left and much consumed alcohol this freak thought it would be cool to play strip poker. Well a third of the people left in attendance at this late hour of the party were this 17 year old girl and her high school friends. Needless to say there were three naked teenagers after 30 minutes one of them a pregnant 15 year old. Drinking with guys in their 20s to mid 30s. I was observing only out of morbid curiousity. Well afew days later one of the girls parents found out and raised a shitstorm. Nothing came of it but my point is kids are ubersexual sluts not just these days but for decades in the past its just sensationalized in the media to scare stupid clueless parents who allow shit like this to happen due to poor parenting skills. Anyways teen sexuality is natural Im not condoning it but if a 14 year old is reproductive its an evolutionary advantage people act so shocked but its just nature taking course I know Im gonna get my ass kicked for this post but oh well!
They lost their home to forecloser this year and moved into a little rental, with just one bedroom, which they gave to the daughter, while they sleep on a bed crammed into the living room. That's rediculous.
Sadly I am not at all surprised to read stories like this. As far back as 1995 I saw the writing on the wall. Back then I was a disc jockey for a top 40 music radio station in Virginia. One day this 25 year old "radio expert consultant" stopped by our station and gave us "advice" on how to reach the kids. His wonderful idea? We need to get more sexual. Example: when doing a PSA about a local dog and cat show that will be taking place at our local park we should use words like "bitch" and "pussy" on the air. That would be "so cool" to the kids he told us. Big mistake !!! At the time we already had a very serious problem with teenagers calling us up using words like "fuck" on the phone and such. Once we even had a 13 year old girl call up one of the male djs ( who was 45 years old BTW ) saying "..I will suck your dick if you play Beck". We even sent a tape of that conversation to the girl's parents however they could have cared less !!. Anyway after the meeting I told this "expert" that no...I will not act nor talk like "a slut" on the air and I quit. However one thing he said that I still remember to this day "..hey....within 10-15 years ALL media will target young people and the only way to reach them is to use sex". Sadly he was right. So stories like this girl and the cell phone nude pics...as disgusting as it is, I am not surprised.
Last edited by Cathy J.; 05-27-2008 at 12:32 AM.
I has to be so tough to be a teenage girl now a days. You get bombarded with sexuality everywhere that you look. Even going into a CVS you see these magazines "Make your man crazy with these sexy secrets." "Learn how to give him a great orgasm."
Women are told that it is our job to be sexual and it is the only way to get guys to like us. It depends on how thin we are and how big our boobs are and how good we are in bed (but we can't have sex too much or we are sluts, but we still need to be experienced).
It is no wonder our girls are turning out this way. Im 26 and I still don't get it sometimes.
"I will be buried in a spring loaded casket filled with confetti, and a future archaeologist will have one awesome day at work."
I have talked to my 14 year old stepdaughter about this very thing. I explained that while it can seem cute or funny to send a sexy pic that girls have to remember the person they send it to can send it anywhere they wish and so on. I explained that the guys you trust are still guys and if you send them a sexy picture they WILL show it to their friends. I have also talked to my teenage son about respect for women. I told him he should never forward a picture of questionable taste to anyone no matter what. He is a pretty good guy but he is still a teenager. I looked at my SD's myspace last night and her pics are full of teensy weensy bikini pics. I told her they were too sexy. She took that as a compliment of course. I guess I should be glad she has clothes on. I can remember wearing short belly shirts that were too tight. They got a lot of attention from the boys. I just wish I had known that wasn't a good thing at that time. I wish I could give her confidence in herself that doesn't come from looks alone.