Caylee Anthony

[Mrs. Watson]

My husband has chronic psoarisis and takes Enbrel. You inject it. Right now, he has a pen, all one piece, ready to go. Previously, it didn't come premixed and had to be put into a syringe. I know, because I was freaking Nurse Lisa.

Anyway, we got the Enbrel mailed. The medical supply place also mailed us a huge box of syringes. Like about a ten year supply, considering my husband took shots twice a week. This was a full, unopened box.

Enbrel is also used for rheumatoid arthritis.

There are also injections for MS, now, I do believe.

So, I'm just throwing that out there.

Oh and I did read through the latest doc dump and I concur; Casey's ass is grass. There is just way too much there for it to be anyone but Casey.

Imaginary Zanny had a house key like I have monkeys flying out of my butt. I sincerely thing Baez is too smart to even try to float the Zanny theory; for that to work at all, he'd have to actually produce her, live and in person, and since she's imaginary, well...

[wildcatgrrl]

Honestly, we're assuming Casey got her hands on a new syringe somehow. I would not be a bit surprised to learn she just swiped a used one from a family member/friend/known druggie hangout. If she didn't care that she was injecting Caylee with chloroform, why should she care about used needle cooties?

[Mrs. Watson]

Excellent point, WCG. Like skanky Casey was all concerned about hygiene. This is a girl who pees in parking structures.

[tamiele]

Originally Posted by Frazzzld Kat

I wish they would bring back old "Sparky" because that is how she needs to be punished. Even if she is sentenced to death she will get the needle and that is just not enough punishment, imo.

Thanks for the link with the latest doc dump discod!

And perhaps she needs a Percy Wetmore to do a little Eduard Delacroix treatment on her purdy little head.

[discod]

Well to me the same person who used the testosterone also drank from the gatorade bottle seeing as the two kinda go together.Find out which male she hung about with who was into body building and i say thats where the syringe etc came from

[Dearheart]

well her boyfriend had a roommate...she partied with any random man that would look at her even once...she also got tatted and there would be a good chance she got the syringe there...I have a friend that is an artist and he will actually use a syringe to flush the lines on his guns..if the fluid in the Gatorade bottle was not gatorade but this cleaning/cholorform liquid she could have tried having Caylee drink it and when that wasn't cutting it she injected her...since there was nothing but a skeleton left it would be impossible to determine if she was injected or ingested this mixture

Casey is toast...she knows she is toast...she's hoping to be able to bat her eyes and charm a jury into feeling sorry for her and believing her crap...fact remains that not everyone is so stupid as her parents are...as far as the "Zanni had a key to the Anthony home" angle goes...who in the sam hell gives a key to someone to your parents house whom they have never even met? Especially since Casey had a long history of stealing from her parents...why would Cindy or George claim now they knew about the key and were okay with it? Bitch killed that little girl...they know it! I think Cindy is so self absorbed in her picture perfect family she will stop at nothing to clear Casey...including framing someone else...I hope the Grund's and Lazarro ET AL are keeping a close eye on their homes and vehicles...cus I can see that Queen Bitch Cindy planting anything she can to try to implicate them!

I still would love to hear the supposed motive any of these people around Casey would have for killing her child...what would Zanni's motive be? How was this entire family "in danger" it's as if Casey want's someone to believe her life and the people in it were so cloak and dagger...she was a loser slacker nobody who was basically used up by the age of 22..and SHE KNEW IT! That baby cramped her style and I believe she killed her for several reasons...most of all to get even with Cindy and George...I still think there is some connection to those internet searches and her parents..meaning I think she planned on killing all of them..or at least Caylee and pinning it on her parents her plan backfired and that is when we heard about Zanni the Nanny

[tamiele]

I had a thought with respect to Cindy and Zanny. Cindy has tried to say she has heard Zanny references in the past...like Zanny's dog...and that Zanny had a key to their home. I am not sure I believe Cindy because she is really reaching to validate Casey's stories as truth. But, let's suppose Casey was "planting" the Zanny reference back in the day....and now Cindy (whether she really remembers or not) is corraborating these "references"....it suddenly occurred to me that this would be evidence of premeditation on Casey's part. We are debating whether Casey murdered Caylee on purpose or did she accidentally kill her with the chloroform overdose. What if Zanny was the planted scapegoat all along....for months before the murder even took place. I wouldn't put it past Casey...she certainly isn't without the capabilities to lie and develop this elaborate web of stories....all making Zanny seem plausible. And Cindy wanting to save her daughter is gullible enough to support and perpetuate the story. This could really back fire on both Cindy and Casey....on Casey because if she recants the Zanny story then the prosecution can still use the Zanny reference as premeditation....and Cindy because she took it and ran with it too.

Too funny!!! I hope the prosecution is thinking about this one. Anyhow I don't get light-bulb moments very often so I just had to share.

[Dearheart]

oh jesus...the new tactic of the defense...they say that Roy Kronk who found Caylee needs to be investigated in Caylee's death because they interviewed his ex wife who said he once restrained her with duct tape...and that when she heard the news her ex found Caylee her first thought was that he had something to do with Caylee's death!

so how exactly would Roy Kronk get his hands on Caylee...does he too know the imaginary Zanny the Nanny? I thought Zanny took the baby...so how did that baby end up in his hands??

so the Anthony family was in danger from the meter reader? I mean which is it? did Zanny take the baby or not? If that has been Casey's story how does Kronk fit into it?

Desperate is as Desperate does....can you say the defense is beyond Desperate?

[punklove]

Originally Posted by wildcatgrrl

Honestly, we're assuming Casey got her hands on a new syringe somehow. I would not be a bit surprised to learn she just swiped a used one from a family member/friend/known druggie hangout. If she didn't care that she was injecting Caylee with chloroform, why should she care about used needle cooties?

How sad that you are more than likely right about that.

[punklove]

Originally Posted by Sanddodger

I hope that justice is full served in her trial. If it isn't somethings wrong with the legal system. Didn't her mother report the child missing in the first place? Cindy Anthony called 911 and said, "I found out my granddaughter has been taken, she has been missing for a month." Casey Anthony allegedly told her family and police that she had not seen her daughter for 31 days and had launched her own investigation. In one of three calls placed to 911, Cindy Anthony said, "I found my daughter's car today and it smelled like there's been a dead body in the damn car." Cindy Anthony later retracted that statement, and the Anthony family rallied around Casey. She claimed she was out searching when she was doing this.
http://glosslip.com/2008/07/31/new-p...r-was-missing/

The person who took those images flickr's site is down http://www.flickr.com/photos/equalizeyou/

The part that bothers me about that is that Cindy did retract the statement, Which to me implies that she felt the need to 'cover' for someone. Within her changing the story a couple times (pizza with maggots or maybe someone put the body in there after it was towed) says to me that she was attempting to get the focus away from her daughter.

She just have stuck with the dead body thing, and just said something like.. 'hey look it smelled like something dead was in there, what do I know' instead of all sorts of silly excuses that make it seem more certain that casey did it.

[punklove]

Originally Posted by Dearheart

and if this syringe is connected to Casey...where exactly would she be able to get a syringe? any record of her purchasing syringes? does anyone in her family have a condition that requires injections? would Cindy possibly have syringes? did she nip one from one of her friends? from her own dr's office?

I read the report on the liquid...the fluid in the bottle was not gatorade but this cleaning/chloroform solution..what are the odds that someone would throw that particular item where this child's body was found when cleaning solutions and chloroform were found in high concentrations in Casey's trunk? In a DISNEY bag of all things...God I hope they found fingerprints or some valuable DNA to link to Casey..if they do her goose it cooked and she might as well start fessing up to what she did

You can also buy them online or just walk into any drug store in most states and you are able to buy them no questions asked - this change happened some years ago in hopes that drug addicts would use new needles instead of sharing them.

"Ten states, including New York, and the District of Columbia prohibit the sale of hypodermic needles without a prescription. Connecticut changed its laws last July to allow both the purchase and possession of needles in an effort to help addicts avoid needles contaminated with H.I.V., the virus that causes AIDS."

[Dearheart]

my hope is that there is some way to trace where that syringe came from...if it is at all connected to anyone within or just outside Casey's circle

this latest accusation against the meter reader has got me reeling...okay let's look at the stories so far...Zanny took Caylee for a normal day and never returned her...then Zanny and her sister Sam took Caylee from the park leaving a "script" for Casey to follow or else! Not only was Caylee in danger but so was the entire Anthony family...then the car is located..it smells like there's been a damn dead body in the car...then it was pizza...then someone elses dead body could have been in it...then a body is found...then it was Zanny killed her but Jesse Grund and his father had to be involved as well as Amy...or maybe it was Ricardo...and now...Roy Kronk, someone that tried to bring that area to someones attention before finally finds her and he's the culprit!?!?!? because according to some big bad ex battle axe and her "opinion" of him (hey they are divorced for a reason!) then he must have been the one that killed her...I still would like an explanation from the defense how Roy Kronk and Zanny were connected? How would that baby fall into his hands when she was supposed to have been taken by the nanny??? Seems they don't have an explanation for that....takes me back to what Bias said when she was finally arrested the last time something alongs the lines of...the full story will come out...which version of that story remains to be seen I guess!

I think it's shit! The man found Caylee...something told him to keep going back...yeah I believe in hunches and I believe that he was bothered back in August...went back in December and saw that it had never been followed up on and he decided to check for himself...he doesn't deserve to be besmurged by the defense as every other person has been...first it was the real Zaneida Gonzalez...then the Grund family...then certain friends of hers and now him? Please....I really want to hear the defense theory as to how Roy Kronk..neighborhood meter reader managed to get the baby away from Zanny and Sam...how he had access to Casey's car so he could put a "damn dead body" in it long enough for it to smell...then get that body out of the car...dump it near the home...mind you he would have had to do this BEFORE the child was ever reported missing...how he knew what a fucked up little liar Casey was, so much so that she would be the one to blame...how he knew she would go party and steal from her friends instead of looking for her daughter...how he knew she would abandone that car in that location...omg the list can go on and on

I think it's DISGUSTING that the defense has gone this far..yeah yeah I know it's their job to present some sort of reasonable doubt...I said REASONABLE...Bias is making a complete and utter ass out of himself and this is so far from reasonable that if presented to a jury..I can imagine pissing off a jury so much that that little twat will get the needle...I remember him stating back when the indictment was handed down that the full story would be revealed...maybe he should consider at this point convincing his client to cop a plea before he manages to sacrifice Casey to death and his career as well...there is NOTHING "Johnny Cochran" about Bias and his approach.."if it doesn't fit...the bitch did it!"

[punklove]

Originally Posted by Dearheart

my hope is that there is some way to trace where that syringe came from...if it is at all connected to anyone within or just outside Casey's circle

Ive not gotten completely caught up so please forgive me if Im bringing up something thats already been discussed.

A) Without a doubt you can trace where syringe is from; they all have a lot number on them in case that syringe is ever recalled. The lot number would tell you what store they came from and they could audit the store and find the times that those needles were sold to someone and perhaps match it up to security camera footage.

B) When injecting someone with something a bit of the persons blood will backwash into the syringe and can be tested to see whos it was.

C) When you push the top part of the syringe down to inject the meds people often touch the inside bit of the syringe; Im sure she wouldnt have injected the drug then pulled the top of the syringe back up to wipe off any prints.

Who knows what they will be able to tell, hopefully something that gives her the jail time she deserves.

c)