Ellen was really really nice. Sort of a damaged soul, I thought. She finally made public what she told me over dinner a few years back, about the sexual abuse she suffered when she was a child.
Of course, this was at a weird time in her life, she was in England celebrating her "coming out" episode, while back in America, her career was in the toilet and her show cancelled. She was not in a happy way. I think both of our lives were in the toilet at that point, unbeknownst to me.
She there with Ann Heche. Psycho. I didn't like her this night, I never liked her, and I never trusted her. When they split, I was glad for Ellen. And Ellen's mom Betty was sweet too.